# People other than Police who Solve Murders

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 17, 2014, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697 "2014-09-17T00:42:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/1 "2014-09-17T00:42:10Z")

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This started out as a post in the random silliness thread, but it keeps getting longer and longer, so I thought to bring the conversation here

People other than Police who Solve Murders:[ul][_]Private Detectives[_]Defense Attorneys[_]Reporters[_]Pathologists[_]Insurance Investigators[_]Mystery Writers[_]Gentleman Amateurs[_]Nosy Little Old Ladies[_]Precocious Kids[_]The Post-Murder Cleaning Crew[_]Psychics[_]Criminology ProfessorsGhost of the victim(s)[/ul]

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/2 "2014-09-17T01:04:34Z")

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Wealthy childless couples (Nick and Nora Charles, Jonathan and Jennifer Hart).

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/3 "2014-09-17T01:19:56Z")

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[quote=“Lumpy, post:1, topic:698697”]

[li]Precocious Kids[/li][/QUOTE]

Subset: Sleuths who were regressed to childhood by a plot device.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Wealthy childless couples (Nick and Nora Charles, Jonathan and Jennifer Hart).

Playboy bachelors with lingering childhood trauma.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/4 "2014-09-17T01:36:02Z")

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Cats (Lilian Braun’s “The Cat Who…”)

Drunk ex-cops (Lawrence Block’s Scudder)

Fake psychics and cab drivers (Hitchcock’s FAMILY PLOT)

Musicians (Hitchcock’s THE LADY VANISHED)

Family doctor (Hitchcock’s 2nd version of THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH)

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/5 "2014-09-17T01:52:34Z")

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Religious Ministers ([Father Brown](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Brown), Rabbi David Small)

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/6 "2014-09-17T01:57:37Z")

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Book dealers (The Club Dumas)  
Thieves (The Burke Series by Andrew Vachss)  
Wealthy Playboys (Batman, Iron Man, Zorro, etc.)

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/7 "2014-09-17T01:58:48Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Religious Ministers ([Father Brown](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Brown), Rabbi David Small)

And nuns. Scroll down this [page](http://www.detecs.org/intro.html) for a list, including [Sister Mary Teresa](http://www.detecs.org/teresa.html), who featured in 10 novels (with nun-punny names) by the same author as the Father Dowling mysteries.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/8 "2014-09-17T02:03:36Z")

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The world’s greatest waiter.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/9 "2014-09-17T02:06:01Z")

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Nameless old men in coffee shops ([The Old Man in the Corner](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Man_in_the_Corner))  
Thieves([Arsene Lupin](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ars%C3%A8ne_Lupin), Raffles, [Nick Velvet](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_D._Hoch#Nick_Velvet))  
Geniuses ([The Thinking Machine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_S._F._X._Van_Dusen))

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/10 "2014-09-17T02:16:37Z")

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- Morticians (Hitchcock Sewell series)
- Bounty hunters (Stephanie Plum)
- Assassins
- Insurance adjusters
- Reporters (see Hiaasen, Carl)
- Ethnomusicologists

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/11 "2014-09-17T02:24:06Z")

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Don’t forget the subset of detectives with disabilities:

- Wheelchair use
- Blind
- Deaf
- Obsessive compulsive
- Too old
- Too fat

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**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/12 "2014-09-17T02:29:22Z")

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Judges-- Judge Deborah Knott by Margaret Maron

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/13 "2014-09-17T02:35:03Z")

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Harvard Symbologists

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/14 "2014-09-17T02:57:00Z")

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Aliens (I assume the alien cop in Alienation solved some murders)  
Cyborgs- Robocop and the old DC character Robotman

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/15 "2014-09-17T02:59:18Z")

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A group of people who are all somehow connected but have no idea why they were invited to this dinner in this creepy mansion. (Clue)

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/16 "2014-09-17T04:47:04Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Wealthy childless couples (Nick and Nora Charles, Jonathan and Jennifer Hart).

And Mr. and Mrs. North (tv series from the early 50’s, middle class more than wealthy).

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/17 "2014-09-17T05:25:31Z")

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Teenagers – Hardy Boys, Nancy Drew. I understand this may fall under “Precocious Kids” for some but I think of kids as being pre-teens.

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**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/18 "2014-09-17T05:27:49Z")

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Interfering Bible Bashers ---- Uncle Abner.  
Lexicographers, Dr. Gideon Fell & Baronets, Sir Henry Merrivale : Dickson Carr.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/19 "2014-09-17T05:34:12Z")

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Ham radio operators who intercept an errant signal ([High Frequency](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095940/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1))

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2014, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-other-than-police-who-solve-murders/698697/20 "2014-09-17T05:44:08Z")

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The Perpetrators

(I think there are a few plots, especially Sci-Fi, where the murderer kills someone and then gets amnesia, figures it out, and then is wracked with guilt. But I can’t recall any examples)

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