# People’s obsession with truth

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 9, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-s-obsession-with-truth/808539 "2018-02-09T19:34:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Machinaforce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@Machinaforce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machinaforce)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-s-obsession-with-truth/808539/36 "2018-02-11T23:42:23Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Someone knows very little about science here, and it isn’t me.
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> The Sun exists. That is objective truth. There’s nothing subjective or approximate about it.
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> This would indicate that you have issues determining right from wrong and are seeking excuses to do as you please and ignore such things.
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> Simple questions: Is it wrong to kill random people you meet? Is it wrong to strangle your friend’s children in their cribs? Is rape wrong?
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> Because if you think those things are not wrong simply because there is no right or wrong, you’re a sociopath and lacking both conscience and empathy. In which case I’m done engaging you.
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> Ah yes, Nihilism. See how far that gets you in life.

The Sun existing is an assumption, if asked to “prove it does” you can’t. That doesn’t mean I won’t burn or anything like that if I stay out too long, but trying to prove that something exists is tricky.

Your examples of morality don’t get around the fact that it is a subjective matter. Right and wrong are not objective and change more often than I would like. You can argue why murder and such are “wrong” but it would ultimately boil down to “because I or someone else says so”.

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