# People shouldn't cook meat on Friday **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 10, 2003, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741 "2003-10-10T21:56:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/61 "2003-10-15T10:49:15Z")
As you can see, it’s just me who has a problem with you, **The Ryan**. There’s no need whatsoever to look at yourself for even the slightest responsibility with regards to me not understanding a single bit of all those eloquent words you again produced. Obviously. Everybody else loves you, and thinks you’re a concise and coherent debater. You smoked me good, man. Wow, what an asskicking that was. I won’t be able to sit for days, let me tell you that. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/62 "2003-10-15T11:02:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dijon Warlock \* > \*\*So it’s some kind of 1920s style meat? > > (Sorry, I’m the only one who hasn’t done that one yet.) \*\* Stove, hot plate, BBQ, 1920s style death ray, crock pot, microwave, toaster oven . . . so many ways of cooking meat. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/63 "2003-10-15T13:24:07Z")
> [@](#): > > You smoked me good, man. Wow, what an asskicking that was. > > I won’t be able to sit for days, let me tell you that. Awwwwwww. Can I kiss it better? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/64 "2003-10-15T13:27:29Z")
While I appreciate your kind offer, would you be terribly offended if I politely decline? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/65 "2003-10-15T13:50:19Z")
The lesson here is : Never get into a parsing contest with **The Ryan**. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/66 "2003-10-15T16:44:24Z")
Especially since first you’d have to explain to **The Ryan** what “parsing” is. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/67 "2003-10-15T17:12:53Z")
Well, to The Ryan’s credit, he’d find 13 different definitions for the term “parsing”, 12 of which contextually fit into your statement. He’d argue against the 13th definition, which stems from an ancient Algonquin custom of boiling whale blubber. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2003, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/68 "2003-10-15T20:11:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Now, maybe Coldfire interpreted my statement as saying that I did not think he was correct, but that’s neither what I said nor what I meant, and for Coldfire to present his interpretation as to what I said my actual words was rather dishonest, especially since he never corrected himself. And maybe Coldfire meant to say that the interviewee was “absolutely right”, but that’s not what he said; he said that he had a point, and I disagreed. Interpreting my words not on what I responded to, but on what he meant to say is quite bizarre. Apparently Coldfire doesn’t see anything wrong with completely rewriting an exchange. And apparently the “don’t be a jerk” rule doesn’t apply to him. uhhhh huhhh? whuh? I ran this through the Babelfish Translator and it still didn’t come out any clearer. So breaking it down step by step I get something like this: > [@](#): > > Maybe Coldfire thought I was wrong in saying he was wrong. Which is what I never said. > I never meant it either. > Therefore, since I never said he was wrong, he’s wrong in assuming that I did and is therefore wrong. > But I actually think he was lying, since he never admitted he was wrong. With me so far? And now for the second part, which was less than successful. The italics are my inner logical being dialoguing and struggling with the actual context. > [@](#): > > Maybe Coldfire meant to say that the interviewee was “absoultely right.” But that’s not what he said. > _Do you mean that’s not what the interviewee said, or that’s not what Coldfire said?_ > He said that he had a point. > _Did Coldfire say that about the interviewee, or about himself? Or did the interviewee say that about Coldfire?_ > I disagreed with him. > _Disagreed with who, Coldfire or the interviewee? And what about? Whether that was whatever it was he said, or that he did or did not have a point, he being Coldfire or the interviewee?_ > Interpreting my words not on what I responded to, but on what he meant to say is quite bizarre. > _Your wording is “quite bizarre.”_ > Apparently Coldfire doesn’t see anything wrong with completely rewriting an exchange. > _If he did, it was for the futile purpose of making your point clearer._ > And apparently the “don’t be a jerk” rule doesn’t apply to him. > _Ah, this sentence I understand! Congratulations!_ ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/69 "2003-10-16T06:28:09Z")
Parsing the Parsemeister? Boy, you’re begging to be locked up in the looney bin! Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/70 "2003-10-16T06:58:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Munch \* > \*\*Well, to The Ryan’s credit, he’d find 13 different definitions for the term “parsing”, 12 of which contextually fit into your statement. He’d argue against the 13th definition, which stems from an ancient Algonquin custom of boiling whale blubber. \*\* And boy-howdy, that Dorothy Parker could make some mean boiled whale blubber. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/71 "2003-10-18T22:27:52Z")
Gee, Coldfire, I asked you a question, and you didn’t answer it. Just dancing around the issue, huh? Weaseling out of answering my question, I take it? You said that I said something that I did not say, and you have refused to admit error. You can point to all the posters who don’t like me that you want, but all you’re doing is showing that you don’t have a legitimate response. Did I say what you claimed? What other people think of me is irrelevant to that question, and you ought to be ashamed of yourself for resorting to such a blatant arguentum ad populum. I’m willing to accept responsibility; it is you that is trying to duck it. You posted inaccuracies and insults, and you blame me for the fact that the discussion was not constructive. I was actually trying to communicate, and you showed concern only for attacking me. If I failed to communicate, then fine, I accept responsibility for my point not getting across. But you getting pissed off, you yelling screaming because you didn’t like my response, you insulting me and saying that I said things that I never said, those were all your decisions, and if you think I should accept responsibility for them, you’re quite immature. I am responsible only for my own actions, not yours. If you were simply asserting that I do a poor job of getting my point across, then that would be something that I would have to consider. But that’s not what you accused me of. You accused me of deliberately being obtuse. And you present the opinions of others as support. Well, they don’t matter. Because there’s only one person that knows what my intention was, and that’s me. There is no need to look at myself for responsibility, because I already know with complete certainty that what you say is false. I know that I am not being deliberately obtuse. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/72 "2003-10-18T22:45:18Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by The Ryan_ > Because there’s only one person that knows what my intention was, and that’s me. Truer words were never spoken. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/73 "2003-10-18T22:49:15Z")
ROTFLMAO! Oh, and The Ryan, it is Saturday. You are not supposed to post on Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/74 "2003-10-18T22:50:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Ryan \* > \*\*I already know with complete certainty that what you say is false. I know that I am not being deliberately obtuse. \*\* although once you’ve been confronted with the data that many people **find you to be obtuse** and you refuse to alter your presentation, perhaps, you’ll understand why some people may suspect that at some level it is a deliberate choice? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/75 "2003-10-18T22:53:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Ryan \* > \*\*I know that I am not being deliberately obtuse. \*\* Right you are, my boy. You cannot help being obtuse. There is no deliberation at all. You come by it naturally. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2003, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/76 "2003-10-18T22:55:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Muffin \* > \*\*ROTFLMAO! > > Oh, and The Ryan, it is Saturday. You are not supposed to post on Saturday. \*\* Hey, he’s not supposed to post on a Sunday either, and it’s Sunday here. You are SO in big trouble **The Ryan**. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2003, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/77 "2003-10-19T01:22:18Z")
If you weren’t meaning to indicate what you meant when referring to the other’s previous indication, then why the hell don’t you refer to it? They all can judge by inference what was originally posted that it alone can be meant to be a judgmental post that infers what it means. You’re just not owning up to the personal responsibility of judging what’s right or wrong indicating that any referrals to the other post is not the responsible way to mean anything other than what is being implied by inferrence. By replicating the arguments of the latter post, you’re judging it by its own referrals to the judgments you make, and thus arguing for the exact opposite of what you didn’t mean to not infer. So grow up. And bring back sausage pie. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2003, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/78 "2003-10-19T13:29:31Z")
**The Ryan** : you’re an idiot. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/79 "2003-10-20T18:02:02Z")
I’ll second that, **Coldfire**. Won’t make a damn bit of difference, unfortunately. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741/80 "2003-10-22T00:36:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > \*\*although once you’ve been confronted with the data that many people **find you to be obtuse** and you refuse to alter your presentation, perhaps, you’ll understand why some people may suspect that at some level it is a deliberate choice? \*\* So if someone knows that others find him to be short, and he continues to be short, it must be a deliberate choice? It’s not like I say “well, I know people won’t understand this, but I don’t care”. I don’t see how having someone think that I was saying that someone was wrong was a foreseeable consequence of saying that they don’t have a point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-shouldnt-cook-meat-on-friday/206741.md?page=5)