# People who are going to hell

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 4, 2004, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239 "2004-08-04T03:17:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JoeSki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@JoeSki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeSki)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/41 "2004-08-06T02:08:04Z")

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> [@BiblioCat](#):
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> This is something I’ve never understood. There are always Pit threads about it, and now I’m asking for an explanation. I’m not yelling, or singling you out, I’m just looking for clarification.
> 
> If a food-serving establishment is **open for business** until 10:00 p.m., why do you start breaking things down and cleaning up and putting food away at 7:00 p.m.?  
> If you’re open for business till 10:00, customers should be able to come in at 9:50 and **get food**. Granted, if it’s a sit-down place, I can see saying, “After 9:00, all food is on carry-out basis” because I know you do’t want people hanging around forever, but starting to close up three hours before closing is a little much.  
> Just because you close for business at 10:00 doesn’t necessarily mean you get to go home at 10:00.
> 
> I’ve never worked in food service, but I’ve worked in retail. We were never allowed to close out registers or vacuum or put stuff away or anything like that until we were actually closed.  
> I worked in a jewelry store for a few years, and all the jewelry had to be put in a vault overnight. If we had started putting it away at 6:00 (we closed at 9:00), do you know how much business we would have lost?  
> We waited till 9:00, or until all the customers had left the store, and then put it away. Sometimes it was 9:30 or 9:40 before we got out of there.

Pretty much what **Earthworm Jim** said. We have to stay open and close according to our times, and we simply get less business the later it gets. One thing about working in food service is that there is never, ever a time when you’re allowed to just stand still and do nothing because “there’s nothing to do”. There’s always something to do, and we’re made well aware of this by our managers. Now, as business slows down, we don’t need as many friars, slicers, burners, or anything else operational that is used to prepare food as we normally would if we were more busy, so we turn them off, take them apart, and clean them as quickly as we can so we can leave the store on time (which never, ever happens).

Now as employee in the Deli department at a Publix grocery store, the time that I’m supposed to check out and go home is 10:30. The store closes it’s doors to customers at 10:00. At the end of the day, there’s grime, bits of cheese and meat, oil and grease, _all over the place_. We have to hose down the floor, soap and water every square inch of…well everything, throw stuff away, do mountains of dishes, wipe down everything, take apart everything and put it all back together, sweep, and squeegee the water on the floor into the drains. There’s no way in hell that we can get this done in half an hour. We have to rely on the later hours of the day being slow if we have any hope of going home in time, and every customer we have to deal with decreases our chances of doing that.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/42 "2004-08-06T02:27:51Z")

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I thought of another one: people who drive Hummers. But they aren’t going to real Hell. Oh no. They’re going to Dipshit Hell, where they will hang out with that guy I saw driving around downtown with REALLY LOUD music blaring out of a brand new (with dealer plates) silver convertible with the top down, dressed in a suit. You think you look cool, but you actually look like a dipshit! Other inhabitants of Dipshit Hell: people who sit around in cafes talking on their cell phones about how much money they’re making so that everyone can hear that they’re loaded, women with those FUGLY white-and-pastel Louis Vuitton bags, and anyone who buys copies of _Who Moved My Cheese?_ in bulk to give their employees.

Dipshits. Burn!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/43 "2004-08-06T03:50:27Z")

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TAILGATERS.

Especially the ones who go ballistic when you refuse to speed up even though doing so would mean (a) mowing down the bicyclist(s) ahead of you on a narrow, winding country road, or (b) pulling out to pass the cyclist(s) and having a spectacular head-on collision since you can’t see more than 50 yards ahead at the moment because of all the blind curves.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/44 "2004-08-06T12:23:01Z")

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People at work who, when you are involved with a very long complicated project that you are doing your way and while it may not be the best way, it’s a working way, insist that you do it their way, thus destroying your system and messing up things to boot, so you have to stay late.

I’m sure there’s a special slot in hell already reserved for the dumb shit who created the CD digipack with the spoked circle in the middle. If the spokes break, the CD doesn’t stay in and you have to buy another one. DAMMIT.

I’m glad they are being replaced with digipacks that have solid raised circles in the middle to hold the CD.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/45 "2004-08-06T13:11:03Z")

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> [@Padmaraga](#):
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> The guy yesterday in the old blue van who used the left-turn lane to pass me and 2 people behind me so he could pull in the open space I left between my car & the one in front of me in order to comply with the street sign immediately to my right which read “Do not block driveway.” Goat-fucker.

In a similar vein: the bitch in the blue Volkswagen Golf, who stopped right on the crossed out box in the middle of the intersection yesterday, thereby disabling me from making my left turn into my street, thus backing up traffic _behind_ me all the way through the NEXT intersection, and then pretended to not hear my horn, which was approximately 20 centimeters under her open window. Took 4 minutes for that mess to clear.

Seventh Circle, beeyatch.

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/46 "2004-08-06T13:26:03Z")

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> [@Missy2U](#):
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> **Swampbear** , that is classic!! Next time some jerk does that to me, I’m going to do the exact same thing. If nothing else, the look on their face should be precious! 😃
> 
> Thank you!!
> 
> PS - Just out of curiosity, what has been the response by people when you do that?

I have had apologies from most people and I had one person get upset with me for moving because I was rude. :rolleyes:

Oh, and of course the classic, “But I **need** to answer my cellphone, it could be somebody important!” :rolleyes: The implication behind that, to me, is: “Somebody I’d rather talk to than you might call me.” That is an example of when the “accidental” flying cup of coffee would come in handy.

I don’t see any of those people anymore. I mean, if I’m “rude” I shouldn’t be allowed to hang out with you and if I’m not “important” enough I don’t deserve to hang out with you.

> [@Dragonblink](#):
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> I’ve used a similar tactic when I was working at Starbucks and people would come up to the counter while still yapping on their cel phones. I would immediately say “Oh, don’t let me interrupt!” and either take the order of the next person in line or go find something to clean.

**Dragonblink** you are now officially one of my heroes.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/47 "2004-08-06T15:06:40Z")

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Yet another:

People at work who jam the copy machine and walk away without unjamming it. FUCKERS! Now _I_ have to mess with it and get the jam fixed. Why? Because you are lazy fucks who will BURN.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/48 "2004-08-06T15:10:58Z")

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I also work in a grocery store deli, except in mine if we work late we get bitched at by the store manager for working overtime. Apparently some of the corporate chimps tested it and figured you could wipe every thing down, do all the dishes, wrap all the meats, etc. in half an hour. :dubious:

Allow me to add bosses who understaff and then fret overtime, and people who _know_ how fast a job can be done. Rot in the pit ya bastards. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/49 "2004-08-06T15:13:34Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> Yet another:
> 
> People at work who jam the copy machine and walk away without unjamming it. FUCKERS! Now _I_ have to mess with it and get the jam fixed. Why? Because you are lazy fucks who will BURN.

AND people who accidently download 50 pages to the printer, then turn it off and/or take out the paper. Too fucking stupid to delete the job?

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/50 "2004-08-06T15:46:19Z")

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> [@jttm80](#):
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> Or worse still, those carrying a conversation on their mobile during a movie.

A woman sitting directly in front of me at the movie last night took three phone calls on her cell phone. What was so remarkable was how well she did it. She’d hold the phone vertically, practically pressed to her lips, to answer, and then press the phone to her ear to hear the caller. She moved the phone back and forth, quickly wrapping up the call. I could never hear her words except once when she said “I’m still in the movie. Bye.” If I hadn’t been sitting right behind her, able to see the glow of the LCD display, I’d never have known she’d gotten the calls. I wanted to hug her!

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**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/51 "2004-08-06T16:10:12Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
>
> Yet another:
> 
> People at work who jam the copy machine and walk away without unjamming it. FUCKERS! Now _I_ have to mess with it and get the jam fixed. Why? Because you are lazy fucks who will BURN.

And the people who will be one level below them - the ones who jam it, then come and ask **me** to un-jam it, and when I patiently explain (for the zillionth time) how to do it (because I’m swamped and just can’t do it NOW), just stare at me blankly and still walk away without fixing it themselves.

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/52 "2004-08-06T16:30:19Z")

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Me.

At least if the accepted Judeo-Christian dogma is correct.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/53 "2004-08-06T17:13:20Z")

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> [@JoeSki](#):
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> Pretty much what **Earthworm Jim** said. We have to stay open and close according to our times, and we simply get less business the later it gets. One thing about working in food service is that there is never, ever a time when you’re allowed to just stand still and do nothing because “there’s nothing to do”. There’s always something to do, and we’re made well aware of this by our managers. Now, as business slows down, we don’t need as many friars, slicers, burners, or anything else operational that is used to prepare food as we normally would if we were more busy, so we turn them off, take them apart, and clean them as quickly as we can so we can leave the store on time (which never, ever happens).
> 
> Now as employee in the Deli department at a Publix grocery store, the time that I’m supposed to check out and go home is 10:30. The store closes it’s doors to customers at 10:00. At the end of the day, there’s grime, bits of cheese and meat, oil and grease, _all over the place_. We have to hose down the floor, soap and water every square inch of…well everything, throw stuff away, do mountains of dishes, wipe down everything, take apart everything and put it all back together, sweep, and squeegee the water on the floor into the drains. There’s no way in hell that we can get this done in half an hour. We have to rely on the later hours of the day being slow if we have any hope of going home in time, and every customer we have to deal with decreases our chances of doing that.

Well that situation sucks but it certainly is not the customer’s fault. Pit the management for being bottom line assholes. I have had many years of food service experience, mostly as a cook, and we (the cooks) had a stock remark whenever one of the prima donna, slack ass, no account, piss and moan waiters woulld complain about a late seating–“Oh gee. Another pesky customer!”

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/54 "2004-08-06T20:31:11Z")

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> [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](#):
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> A woman sitting directly in front of me at the movie last night took three phone calls on her cell phone. What was so remarkable was how well she did it. She’d hold the phone vertically, practically pressed to her lips, to answer, and then press the phone to her ear to hear the caller. She moved the phone back and forth, quickly wrapping up the call. I could never hear her words except once when she said “I’m still in the movie. Bye.” If I hadn’t been sitting right behind her, able to see the glow of the LCD display, I’d never have known she’d gotten the calls. I wanted to hug her!

In Gumption County we’d call that a ray of hope. Good for her.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/55 "2004-08-06T21:46:56Z")

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> [@LordVor](#):
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> If you don’t want to still be serving, then there is a great way to inform the customer of this fact. It’s called “locking the damn door and putting up the closed sign”. How dare a customer come into an open deli and tries to buy food?
> 
> -lv

Gotta join in the gangbang here. The innermost circle of hell is reserved for people who:

LEAVE THE “OPEN” SIGN ON WHEN THEY’RE CLOSED.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/56 "2004-08-06T21:59:34Z")

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Dammit, I wasn’t done yet. They can share the innermost circle with:  
WHOEVER DESIGNED THIS WEBSITE SO THAT IT’S POSSIBLE TO ACCIDENTALLY POST JUST BY HAVING YOUR FINGER SLIP.

Anyway, I’m hungry late at night, and I drive by a Der Wienershnitzel with a big, blazing, lit neon sign in the window that says OPEN. I drive up to the speaker, and hear “We’re closed”. I say, “You need to turn off your OPEN sign.” I drive around to the exit, still hungry, and as I’m leaving, notice that the OPEN sign is _still_ on. BURN - MOTHERFUCKERS!

Second innermost circle goes to the people in my neighborhood who get to the 4-way stop sign WAY before I do, but as I’m approaching from the cross-street, wait for me to stop BEFORE they proceed. Then when I get there and stop, they’re still sitting there. When that happens, I’m going to say to myself, “Well if you’re not going to go, then I will”. Do not pick that exact moment to suddenly wake up and drive, almost smacking into me. If you’re so goddam scared of being hit that you have to wait all day until all other cars come to a complete stop before you get up the nerve to start moving, then why are you perfectly willing to smack into me as soon as your pride gets hurt?

Third innermost circle - wait a sec, this should be FIRST - People who park SUVs in the “compact” space.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/57 "2004-08-06T22:26:47Z")

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All the members of Janjaweed every going to hell.

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**Author:** ![AwSnappity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@AwSnappity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AwSnappity)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/58 "2004-08-06T22:43:20Z")

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As I said not five minutes ago to **saramamalana** : those who manufacture espadrilles, those who market espadrilles, and those who wear espadrilles. Ditto for [those hideous winter-type boots](http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=5148&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=121&iSubCat=123&iProductID=5148) (I think she called them “Ugg boots”).

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**Author:** ![Exgineer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Exgineer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exgineer)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2004, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/59 "2004-08-07T00:03:18Z")

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Humor an idiot.

What in hell is an espadrille?

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**Author:** ![Catfood\_Purrito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Catfood\_Purrito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catfood_Purrito)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2004, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-are-going-to-hell/258239/60 "2004-08-07T01:05:33Z")

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[Espadrilles](http://www.zappos.com/n/es/d/722000653.html)

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