# People who deceive?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 28, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573 "2011-07-28T01:26:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![browncoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@browncoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/browncoat)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/1 "2011-07-28T01:26:23Z")

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“Deceit is the game of petty spirits, and that is by nature a woman’s quality.”  
Pierre Corneille

Events in my life have resulted in wondering is this just a woman’s quality?

What with the news of the world etc…that was both men and w:confused:omen?

I do find that there is a certain type of person that can be deceitful.

An example: Girlfriend keeps things from her estranged partner to cause maximum negative impact on the now ex partner who has moved on of course this would be denied by the now ex girlfriend but there are too many who know the real facts, so why still lie knowing it’s pointless?

What are your thoughts? 😕

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/2 "2011-07-28T01:50:11Z")

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Reported for a forum change.

Plus impenetrability.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/3 "2011-07-28T01:56:20Z")

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Uh, what are \*your \*thoughts? Not to be obtuse, but whatchou talkin’ 'bout?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/4 "2011-07-28T01:57:58Z")

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> [@browncoat](#):
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> “Deceit is the game of petty spirits, and that is by nature a woman’s quality.”  
> Pierre Corneille
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> Events in my life have resulted in wondering is this just a woman’s quality?

Someone who thinks that only women deceive is a con man’s _dream_.

And if the point is supposed to be that women are petty; well, both men and women are petty. Just in different ways sometimes.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/5 "2011-07-28T02:07:00Z")

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My thoughts are that this OP sounds kinda like it would be happier in MPSIMS or IMHO. If you have a rant to give us that you’d like some feedback on, go ahead and give specifics. Give us something to get worked up on your behalf about. Fair warning though: 'round these parts, a generalization that Pits a sex, _either_ sex is often a fast track to getting people worked up about the person who posts it.

Also: a capacity for deceit is a quality that can’t be usefully ascribed to one sex over another.

Also also, welcome to the SDMB. 🙂

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/6 "2011-07-28T02:09:05Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Reported for a forum change.
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> Plus impenetrability.

Thanks for saving me the trouble. I do feel like I’m being invited to form conclusions based on very few actual facts.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/7 "2011-07-28T02:11:57Z")

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This fellow _obviously_ has never dated guys.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/8 "2011-07-28T02:25:00Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> This fellow _obviously_ has never dated guys.

Or tried to buy a car from one.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/9 "2011-07-28T03:16:32Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Or tried to buy a car from one.

Or watched any girl try to get a simple oil change at a car shop or dealership.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/10 "2011-07-28T03:34:39Z")

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> [@Lasciel](#):
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> Or watched any girl try to get a simple oil change at a car shop or dealership.

Or watched three co-eds in half shirts water the front lawn.

Or … am I not playing the game right?

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/11 "2011-07-28T04:06:12Z")

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I’m gonna guess she filled your charges up with water, then sent for Captain Farrell to be ready for the slaughter?

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**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/12 "2011-07-28T06:22:36Z")

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Your best bet is to contact a family member in the military.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/13 "2011-07-28T06:38:43Z")

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All warfare is based on deception. - Sun-Tzu, _The Art of War_, circa 6th century BC

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**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/14 "2011-07-28T06:40:11Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> I’m gonna guess she filled your charges up with water, then sent for Captain Farrell to be ready for the slaughter?

Well done.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/15 "2011-07-28T11:13:57Z")

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> [@Gukumatz](#):
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> Well done.

Seconded.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/16 "2011-07-28T11:21:02Z")

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> [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#):
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> Your best bet is to contact a family member in the military.

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And I missed this one. +1 for subtlety.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/17 "2011-07-28T12:17:56Z")

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The bottom of the page ad I’m seeing says: “Want Ex Girlfriend Back?  
Stop, Don’t Push Her Further Away Learn The Tricks To Get Her Back.”

Ya gotta be deceitful.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/18 "2011-07-28T12:23:18Z")

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You give Browncoats a bad name.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/19 "2011-07-28T12:24:04Z")

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Ralph Wiggum: You’re deceitful!

Thanks, Ralph.

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-deceive/590573/20 "2011-07-28T13:12:27Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Or watched three co-eds in half shirts water the front lawn.
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> Or … am I not playing the game right?

Yeah, you are playing wrong. But keep going, you have my attention.

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