People who defer

You’re right. :wink:

Will you please reconsider; we’re going to miss you! :frowning:
Waverly, there’s a maxim that I haven’t seen brought up yet: Choose your battles. It all depends on what’s worth taking a stand for.

No, you still don’t get it. What I don’t do is put myself in a position to decide what is a “legitimate” reason for someone else to defer some decision and what isn’t “legitimate”. I certainly have this authority over my own decision making process, but not that of others. I can look at my own decisions and decide if the reason I threw the whole thing in the lap of some other decision-maker and surrendered a bit of my autonomy was a good one or not, but I have no authority, nor frankly any interest, to do so to others.

My mind is not for rent, to any god or government. But if someone else decides theirs is, well, that’s their choice and it is their life.

Enjoy,
Steven

I think the point Waverly is making is that people need to take responsibility for their choices, whether or not they’re arrived at by the unassisted power of their intellect, or are arrived at through deference to an authority. If the Pope says women are second class citizens and you defer to the Pope, you still own the decision. Your responsiblity. Your rule. Don’t like it? Change religions.

I’m 100% in agreement with Waverly here, and I OWN that agreement. Until he says something I don’t like. Then watch out!

Speaking primarily of work.

There are times when I am willing to make clear that there are decisions that are not mine and that there is nothing I can do about (or nothing more I can do about). Decisions I made, or decisions I had input into (even rejected input) I am willing to own. But I do not want to hear bitching about stuff I have no control over or input over, nor any more information than my subordinates . Bitch to me about the stuff that I do control or that I can affect - my bad decisions rather than the ones from 5 states over.