People who don't return carts ain't always lazy.

How do they manage that? Is the thing that locks the cart electronic or mechanical or can you tell? I doubt it’s electronic, as it would probably break fairly easily.

Well since I’m already paying for it, why shouldn’t I get it? If you don’t want to pay for it, shop somewhere that doesn’t offer carts. You shouldn’t need a high IQ to understand that.

Ok, I can see there’s not a lot of room in your primitive skull for new information, so I’ll use small words even you can grasp: You ass. Make store work hard. Store make price high. Ugh.

Where my mother lives (a much nicer neighborhood than where I do, I assure you), her Acme has iron gates around it to keep people from stealing the carts–you can only get them to the perimeter of the parking lot.

I wish to hell our Shop-Rite would do that. I’ve even had people argue that, “Oh, they don’t mind–they send someone around the neighborhood to collect them.”

I’m sure that “someone” enjoys tooling around in a truck picking stolen property off peoples’ lawns and streets and sidewalks . . . Lazy, cheap, litterin’ bastards. I repeat, if you have no car, a collapsible “little old lady cart” like mine costs about 20 bucks . . .

Thanks for your gracious response. The littlest guy is nursing as I type this. He’s a nice guy, but he keeps me up at night. ::yahn::

Because I don’t want to pay for it! You’re making me have to pay higher prices because you’re too fucking lazy to walk 20 feet and deposit your cart in the proper place. Not to mention that little ding in someone’s car door that you’re responsible for because you cart was pushed into their vehicle by the wind.

Do you have no concept of manners and common courtesy? Were you raised by wolves or something? God forbid that you do something that you don’t have to simply because it’s the right thing to do!

Why such acrimony? I shop at store that provide carts, and pay the prices I am willing to tolerate. Does it cost more to shop at a store that provides a certain level of service? Sure it does. If the store’s prices are too high, I shop somewhere else. I assume you do the same. Yes, I expect the store to work, and to provide the service for which I am paying. When you stay in a hotel, do you make your own bed? Do you bus the tables in a restaurant? I don’t expect my customers do do my job, and my vendors shouldn’t expect me to do theirs. Thanks for the small word, though. It was a big help.

Wow. Only four posts into the thread, and the OP is already completely debunked.

Gosh, I won, and I didn’t even know I had been nominated. I have a whole list of people I’d like to thank, now where did I put it?

In point of fact, I haven’t owned an automobile in years, and when I did own one I never had such a hard on for it that a scratch made any difference at all. A car is a box you sit in to transport yourself from point A to point B. Any damage that does not interfere with the primary function of the auto is, by my definition, irrelevant. It may interfere with the resale value, but I was always a drive it till the wheels fell off kind of guy.

Bill Door Just because you are that way, does not mean others are, and you should respect that because it costs you MORE MONEY than it should, to be lazy and inconsiderate. Also, a bad enough ding/scratch can lead to rust, and things can go downhill from there, especially if you live in an enviroment that’s particularly wet, or where some kind of de-icing agent is used on roads or parking lots.

Just a devil advocate-ish question here, but what if I do want to pay for it? I mean, how much more money am I spending to cover the costs of a high school kid running around the parking lot collecting carts? I’m more than happy to pay the .000001 cent it personally costs me to hire that kid, if it means I can get home thirty seconds sooner. Isn’t that the whole point of supermarkets in the first place? Convenience?

I’m a little surprised here, because this is literally the first time I’ve ever heard of this being any sort of an issue. I never put my cart back in the corral unless it’s right next to me. I’ll hook the front wheels over the curb so its out of the way and won’t blow around the parking lot, but it’s never even occured to me that I’m under some sort of obligation to take the cart back.

When I’m in a hurrry, such as when I need to get the hell home with my rapidly melting pack of butter pecan ice cream after standing in line for a half hour while some 80 year old woman pays a $150 bill in pennies and insists on double counting them just to make sure she’s not overpaying, and then I have to spend twenty minutes cleaning the grey matter and skull fragments off my can of cream of mushroom soup that the cashier kindly used to make a three point shot into the bag that had my apples in it…

Hmm, what was I ranting about here?

I don’t leave my cart willy-nilly in the lot, I walk it as close as I can to the exit, and pop the front wheels over a curb to prevent it rolling away. Again, If you don’t want to pay for even the minimal service supplied by a store that provides carts, shop somewhere else. A store could hire a person 24 hours a day to move carts for minimum wage and it would cost $125 USD per day. Even with benefits, we’re talking about less than $200. How many people shop at a store open 24 hours, 2000 or so? It’s a dime per person. If I send you a dime, will you leave me the fuck alone?

I work at a grocery store, pushing the carts, because I’m a student and need some extra cash.

I don’t mind getting your carts that you push all the fuck over the place and leave for me to get. I don’t mind it at all. I get paid the same whether or not I bag your groceries, or if I’m out collecting the carts that assholes like you left all over the place. I don’t care if I’m out collecting the carts that you left, instead of helping some old lady who can barely walk with her groceries.

I get paid the same $6.91 an hour.
Basically, the only real accomplishment that you can possibly attest to, is degrading the quality of your own in-store experience. I don’t even want to hear you bitch about how long it takes to get your groceries or if you have to bag them. Guess why? I’m out collecting the carts that you ass fucks pushed all over the lot, and left them there for me to go and get. It’s my job isn’t it?

Fucking hypocrites.

Then if you’re willing to put that much effort into it, wouldn’t it be just as easy for you to put the cart in the designated area? Maybe you deal with different sorts of parking lots than I’m used to. In all the lots I’ve seen, the only curbs are around the perimeter of the lot, which would make parking the carts there mush more difficult than putting them in the corrals that are scattered around the parking lot.

That’s not the problem. This is an issue of common courtesy. What you’re doing is like going to the baggage check-in an airport, and instead of handing your baggage to an employee, dropping it on the floor several feet away and making them go and get it. True, it’s their job to check the baggage, but that doesn’t mean you have to be an ass about it.

Really, it’s not the fact that it raises the prices that upsets me the most (although that does annoy me, having to subsidize your laziness. But I digress…). It’s the attitude that you seem to have about it. “It’s not my job, so I don’t have to do it. Why should I make someone else’s job any easier?

I’m guessing that you’ve never had to work at a job that required you to gather shopping carts. I have. You’d be amazed at the amount of gratitude someone in that position would have if everyone just put their carts back where they belong. It’d be a fucking miracle – especially in inclimate weather, when it actually more likely that the employee will have to go trekking to the ends of the earth in order to gather carts, often in pouring rain or frigid temperatures. I guess you’re just not the altruistic sort.

In the name of all cart gatherers (and former cart gatherers, of which I am one), I sincerely hope that your customers make your job as difficult as humanly possible. After all, if your job were made too easy, you might get laid off, right?

I think it’s funny that Bill Door, who sounds like a fantasically lazy son of a bitch, named himself after Death from Discworld. Death is one guy who ALWAYS does his job. Meanwhile this guy bitches and moans about the most minor tasks in the world, and prides himself on not doing them because he doesn’t have to. That attitude might be tolerable coming from a five-year-old, but coming from anyone else it’s pretty fucking stupid. Bill, you sound like one of the millions of dweebs who never flushes after leaving the bathroom. After all, the next guy can do it, so why should you?

In the city where I used to live, the grocery stores had given up. The one I frequented had a grand total of two cart corrals, both right across the fire lane from the main entrance. Shopping carts were always scattered throughout the parking lot.

Now, I had always been a “Return it to the right place” kind of guy, but there was no way I was walking half way across the parking lot to return my cart. So I started appeasing karma by grabbing a loose cart from the parking lot on my way in. I figured that way I at least wasn’t making the problem worse.

-lv

And yet, without we cart abandoners, cart gatherers would be unemployed. If you’ve been a cart pusher, you should know the truth. The fewer carts there are to push the harder the job is. They set two people to do the job of three, then one, then they expect the bagger to run in and out of the store to handle the carts in between the other tasks. If there was less work to do there would be fewer people doing it. Are you so obtuse that you think Walmart would pay people to sit with folded hands while customers put their own carts away?

I do appreciate it if my customers refuse to do my job, that’s what puts money in my pocket, plus they’re no good at it, or they wouldn’t be customers, they’d be competitors.

Are you one of the people that use the self-checkout scanning machines? Do you bag your own groceries? I do not. I don’t begrudge you your efforts to make things as economical as possible for the grocery chains, but just because I don’t does not make me lazy.

I’m sure hnts appreciates the credit you’re giving to the difficulty of his job, but if people like you weren’t so fucking lazy, there wouldn’t be cart-pushers in the first place. Thus, it’s your fault hnts had to work this crappy job: if not for you, there would be no need for it! :rolleyes:

I can at least respect the argument that the scanning machines are complicated. Your excuse for refusing to clean up after yourself is just pathetic.

Not a chance. The cart gatherer has to gather the carts from the designated corrals scattered throughout the parking lot. That is where I’m saying you should return the cart to. Then the gatherer can do his/her job more efficiently by being able to gather more carts in a shorter amount of time.

Yes, whenever possible. It’s usually faster than waiting in line to have someone else do it (since most self-checkouts are also express lanes). Plus, I don’t have to worry about some idiot bagger putting my hot and juicy rotisserie chicken in the same bag as my ice cream.

If there is not a bagger to do it, yes. I’d rather do it myself and get done faster than make the checkout clerk scan and bag. If there’s someone standing right there to do it for me, than I’ll let them do it, though.

If you were really concerned about creating jobs for the cart-gatherers, then why don’t you roll your cart as far away from the store as possible before leaving? Your motivation obviously isn’t securing the cart-gatherer’s jobs – in fact, most cart-gatherers do so only as part of their job, spending the bulk of their time doing stuff like stocking shelves and carrying heavy merchandise for little old ladies. . . tasks which you are making it more difficult for them to get around to. No, your motivation is doing as little work as possible. I’d classify that as lazy.