# People who don't tip

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-dont-tip/407327>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 8, 2007, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-dont-tip/407327 "2007-06-08T23:45:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
**Page:** 14

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-dont-tip/407327/261 "2007-06-13T04:13:00Z")

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**Sitnam** , the first two parts of my post were directed to you in response to telling waiters up front you’re not going to tip and then getting “the service you’re paying for.”

The rest was directed towards other’s posts about service in non-tipping countries, not you.

Since this is really more of a pizza delivery thread, you (or those who oppose tipping delivery drivers) should call for your next pizza and inform them before placing your order that you aren’t going to tip. It would be interesting if we could get enough Dopers to do this and monitor the results.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-dont-tip/407327/262 "2007-06-13T12:41:27Z")

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
**Sitnam** , the first two parts of my post were directed to you in response to telling waiters up front you’re not going to tip and then getting “the service you’re paying for.”.  
The rest was directed towards other’s posts about service in non-tipping countries, not you.  
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What difference does that make. You’re still being inconsistent.

[QUOTE=levdrakon]  
[Since this is really more of a pizza delivery thread,.  
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I’m glad you told me what this thread is really about, cause I was mistaken when I read the OP.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-dont-tip/407327/263 "2007-06-13T13:25:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Fuji]  
True, but if you don’t have a good reason, and you know what the deal is, you’re still an asshole.  
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Whereas nobody in Australia will think you’re an asshole/stingy/cheap for not tipping, for the simple reason that we don’t do it anyway.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-dont-tip/407327/264 "2007-06-13T17:46:13Z")

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Does anyone suppose that **Dudley** is coming back?

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**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-dont-tip/407327/265 "2007-06-13T21:52:33Z")

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I think we scared off **CuddlyDudley**.

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-dont-tip/407327/266 "2007-06-15T13:28:59Z")

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[QUOTE=CynicalGabe]  
I’m delivering pizza now, and I wonder what compels people to not tip the delivery guy? I had one guy who did not tip on a $30 delivery. Another person gave me a $0.05 tip, which is more insulting than no tip at all. I always deliver on time, and with a smile, so there is no justification for this. Some people tip very well. Last night I got $7 on a $21 delivery  
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I’m working right now (ok, technically writing a post, but I digress) I always do my work on time and with a smile, for co-workers and students, and what do I get? A pay slip, at the end of each month. Should I expect more?

I can’t see why it is that delivery/serving staff seem to think themselves entitled to free money that others in equally paid jobs would not receive. Why should someone who doesn’t tip receive an inferior service? If a company offers some sort of premium service for faster delivery, that’s one thing. Employees thinking they shouldn’t bother themselves for people not offering free money, that’s another.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-dont-tip/407327/267 "2007-06-15T16:10:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Pushkin]

I can’t see why it is that delivery/serving staff seem to think themselves entitled to free money that others in equally paid jobs would not receive. Why should someone who doesn’t tip receive an inferior service? If a company offers some sort of premium service for faster delivery, that’s one thing. Employees thinking they shouldn’t bother themselves for people not offering free money, that’s another.  
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No one (ok, most of us are not) is arguing that people who don’t tip should receive inferior service.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-dont-tip/407327/268 "2007-06-15T16:12:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Pushkin]  
I’m working right now (ok, technically writing a post, but I digress) I always do my work on time and with a smile, for co-workers and students, and what do I get? A pay slip, at the end of each month. Should I expect more?

I can’t see why it is that delivery/serving staff seem to think themselves entitled to free money that others in equally paid jobs would not receive. Why should someone who doesn’t tip receive an inferior service? If a company offers some sort of premium service for faster delivery, that’s one thing. Employees thinking they shouldn’t bother themselves for people not offering free money, that’s another.  
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Tipping is a custom in the USA. It might be better to improve wages for service people instead of making them depend on tips–but that hasn’t happened yet.

How are things in beautiful Belfast?

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-dont-tip/407327/269 "2007-06-15T16:58:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Pushkin]  
I’m working right now (ok, technically writing a post, but I digress) I always do my work on time and with a smile, for co-workers and students, and what do I get? A pay slip, at the end of each month. Should I expect more?  
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Do you get more? Paid vacation time, sick leave, retirement benefits, computer access, office space, free coffee and donuts?

Jobs come with wages/salary, but they also come with benefits of other sorts, that you expect to receive when you take the job. In the US at least, those benefits and expectations include, for certain occupations, that you will receive tips from the people you serve.

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