# People who hate children

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 2, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746 "2009-04-02T19:25:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![sugar\_and\_spice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@sugar\_and\_spice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugar_and_spice)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/21 "2009-04-02T20:21:34Z")

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yeah i’d also be curious to see what threads he’s talking about. there are some nice child-free folks here, it seems kinda obnoxious to make sweeping generalizations. and then compare then to racists.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/22 "2009-04-02T20:22:11Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Just for fun, substitute “Puerto Ricans” or “Jews” in place of “socially retarded, 20-something, wannabe hipster compu-weenies who live on the internet ”. Pretty fucking ugly, no?

Wasn’t it Hitler who first said that “Jews think being a sarcastic dick on a message board is tantamount to genuine human interaction”?

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/23 "2009-04-02T20:28:18Z")

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> [@sugar\_and\_spice](#):
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> yeah i’d also be curious to see what threads he’s talking about. there are some nice child-free folks here, it seems kinda obnoxious to make sweeping generalizations. and then compare then to racists.:rolleyes:

How is it a sweeping generalization? He clearly is calling out only angry, bitter posters (of which there may or may not be any). At no point can an intelligent, sane person read his post and think he’s slamming on every person who is childless by choice.

[Quote=Jettboy]  
No, not just people who don’t have kids, but the special group of asswipes who actively hate children.  
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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/24 "2009-04-02T20:29:30Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> News Flash, dipshit: Being a parent doesn’t make you a good person just like not being a parent doesn’t make me a bad one.

Apparently (haw-haw), being a parent makes you…a _parent!_

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/25 "2009-04-02T20:29:35Z")

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I didn’t really hate children, you know. I just hate _your_ children.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/26 "2009-04-02T20:31:20Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I didn’t really hate children, you know. I just hate _your_ children.

I’m not old, your music really does suck.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/27 "2009-04-02T20:42:07Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I didn’t really hate children, you know. I just hate _your_ children.

Especially when you take them to the R rated movie and let them wander in the aisles to yell and kick the back of my seat.

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**Author:** ![Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Long_Time_First_Time)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/28 "2009-04-02T20:45:54Z")

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I think the OP can be summarized as : “There’s nothing wrong with hating kids as long as you keep your yap shut about it.” You have to know that if you insult a group of people, those people and others sort of like them are going to get insulted and react. Which makes for a dandy pit thread.

Children are not adults - they are more emotional, and generally louder. Children live on the same planet as we do. So even folks who would never have kids should be aware of basic child behavior and not get completely bent out of shape when a child fails to act just like an adult might. And it’s not fair to blame said child’s parents if they can’t instill proper impulse control in a young child so that they never act up. And, as some one who understands this, it is tiring to read poster after poster who appears oblivious to these basic facts.

As many have said, if you don’t want to be around kids, go some place where kids do not go such as a bar or a brothel.

Kid-haters are a sub-set of group of people who seem to find it a badge of honor to know as little as possible about the world around them. I listen to scads of young adults bragging about how poorly they cook, how terrible they are with money, and how wacked out their priorities are in general.

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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/29 "2009-04-02T20:47:12Z")

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Ok, I’ll be an example! I hate children. With a fiery, burning passion that consumes my soul. Just today I yelled at a kid riding his bike up and down my driveway. (It makes the dog bark.) They’re not funny, they’re not cute, and they contribute nothing to society. Don’t pay taxes? Get out of my sight. They are messy, loud, stupid, and useless. On two occasions I have kicked small children. Don’t hand me your baby unless you want something horrible to happen to it.

Ok. Flame away!

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/30 "2009-04-02T20:48:16Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Especially when you take them to the R rated movie and let them wander in the aisles to yell and kick the back of my seat.

See, that’s why I hate adults. They’re always cutting me off in traffic.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/31 "2009-04-02T20:54:59Z")

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> [@starwarsfreek42](#):
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> Don’t pay taxes? Get out of my sight. They are messy, loud, stupid, and useless.

In fairness, the same could be said of your dogs.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/32 "2009-04-02T20:56:04Z")

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> [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](#):
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> I think the OP can be summarized as : “There’s nothing wrong with hating kids as long as you keep your yap shut about it.” You have to know that if you insult a group of people, those people and others sort of like them are going to get insulted and react. Which makes for a dandy pit thread.
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> Children are not adults - they are more emotional, and generally louder. Children live on the same planet as we do. So even folks who would never have kids should be aware of basic child behavior and not get completely bent out of shape when a child fails to act just like an adult might. And it’s not fair to blame said child’s parents if they can’t instill proper impulse control in a young child so that they never act up. And, as some one who understands this, it is tiring to read poster after poster who appears oblivious to these basic facts.
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> As many have said, if you don’t want to be around kids, go some place where kids do not go such as a bar or a brothel.
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> Kid-haters are a sub-set of group of people who seem to find it a badge of honor to know as little as possible about the world around them. I listen to scads of young adults bragging about how poorly they cook, how terrible they are with money, and how wacked out their priorities are in general.

I think they know. Childless people aren’t stupid…they know kids are half-baked. That doesn’t lessen the fact that if you don’t dig 'em, they’re a drag to be around.

By the way, I am not one of them. I just understand where they’re coming from. I love kids. I used to have one. I get giggly when I get to see his girlfriend’s keeblers.

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**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/33 "2009-04-02T20:56:04Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> How is it a sweeping generalization? He clearly is calling out only angry, bitter posters (of which there may or may not be any). At no point can an intelligent, sane person read his post and think he’s slamming on every person who is childless by choice.

To wit:

> [@](#):
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> Those childless-by-choice folk who bitch and moan incessantly about children, \*who tirelessly support their great ‘decision’ \* need to realize that they are just a bunch of spectators sitting life out in favor of a less risky, less traumatic, less valuable, less human experience. _You don’t want to have kids? Great, you’d probably be a terrible parent anyway._ You want to constantly whine and complain about how children as a collective step on your Happy Shoes? Shut the fuck up and grow the fuck up.

[italics mine]

The OP may protest that he is limiting his remarks to those “angry, bitter posters” (in never-identified angry, bitter posts), but the italicized portions suggest that anyway with the temerity to suggest being child-free (the hot new nomenclature, natch) is better is some desiccated husk of a person.

Look, Jettboy, you say life is for the contributors. Fine, make your contribution teaching your kids how to deport themselves at Denny’s and next time you’ll be able to enjoy your Rooty Tooty Fresh’n’Fruity instead of being thrown out and posting batshit broadsides like this one.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/34 "2009-04-02T20:56:33Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I don’t suppose anyone can point to a specific example of this child hate on the boards, can they?

Well…

> [@me](#):
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> Fuckin’ bratty kids…

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/35 "2009-04-02T21:00:54Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> I get giggly when I get to see his girlfriend’s keeblers.

Oh, is that what they’re calling them now? 😉

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/36 "2009-04-02T21:01:05Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> By the way, I am not one of them. I just understand where they’re coming from. I love kids. I used to have one. I get giggly when I get to see his girlfriend’s keeblers.

I can’t tell if you enjoy your son’s girlfriend’s children, or her breasts.

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**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/37 "2009-04-02T21:03:22Z")

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@Bryan Ekers: Wowsers! It is PURPUL WIF TEH RAGE!!!1!!111!

Seriously, acknowledging that kids can misbehave and get on your nerves constitutes pathological child-hatred?

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/38 "2009-04-02T21:04:21Z")

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> [@Jettboy](#):
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> B: angry, bitter, older shut-ins who see children as a constant reminder of the fact that their miserable lives are now just slowly circling the drain waiting for the final flush
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> Those childless-by-choice folk who bitch and moan incessantly about children, who tirelessly support their great ‘decision’ need to realize that they are just a bunch of spectators sitting life out in favor of a less risky, less traumatic, less valuable, less human experience. You don’t want to have kids? Great, you’d probably be a terrible parent anyway.

You know why I don’t have new biological children? Once you create a child, you’re responsible for their existence and every bad thing they go through. And as soon as someone is created, it means someday they will die. I would have forced someone to face that. And just like my friend who didn’t have kids because she couldn’t bear to have them get diabetes too, I don’t want to create a person who will have the same emotional issues I do.

So in short, fuck off. You don’t live my life so don’t assume you understand it.

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**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/39 "2009-04-02T21:10:15Z")

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Now, I am as big a W.C. Fields fan as they come, but crap like calling people with kids “breeders” and calling kids “spawn” is just sad. We’ve all seen it (never in real life, of course). Don’t like kids? Great, do your hypothetical children a favor and don’t have any. Leave the rest of us alone while we perpetuate the human race.

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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/40 "2009-04-02T21:10:48Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> In fairness, the same could be said of your dogs.

Oh I agree, very true. But I don’t bring my dogs to Wal-Mart and force other people have to put up with their squealing and bawling and sticky hands. My dogs keep me from enjoying a peaceful meal AT MY HOUSE, not at Olive Garden.

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