# People who hate children

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 2, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746 "2009-04-02T19:25:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/61 "2009-04-02T22:49:23Z")

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> [@starwarsfreek42](#):
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> Oh I agree, very true. But I don’t bring my dogs to Wal-Mart and force other people have to put up with their squealing and bawling and sticky hands.

Your dogs have hands?

Freaky.

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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/62 "2009-04-02T22:51:22Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Your dogs have hands?
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> Freaky.

How do you think they dance the macarena?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/63 "2009-04-02T22:58:46Z")

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> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#):
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> @Bryan Ekers: Wowsers! It is PURPUL WIF TEH RAGE!!!1!!111!
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> Seriously, acknowledging that kids can misbehave and get on your nerves constitutes pathological child-hatred?

Well, maybe, if it’s not balanced by liking kids even at the best of times.

To me, kids range from neutral to hateful. I’ve no desire for my own. If the technology becomes available in my lifetime, I _might_ clone myself just to prove a point.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/64 "2009-04-02T23:02:34Z")

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> [@Jettboy](#):
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> … Those childless-by-choice folk who bitch and moan incessantly about children, who tirelessly support their great ‘decision’ need to realize that they are just a bunch of spectators sitting life out in favor of a less risky, less traumatic, less valuable, less human experience. …

I know you’re not talking about me, because I find incessantly bitching and moaning about children is very tiring. That’s another reason I don’t like them. It’s like swatting at flies with an open hand – they’re too damn quick to get, and I eventually tire of it.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/65 "2009-04-02T23:15:58Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> [CA - Cruelty - § 597.7. Animal endangerment; confinement in unattended motor vehicle; violations and penalties; | Animal Legal & Historical Center](http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stuscacalpenalcode597_7.htm)
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> Different penalties.
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> ETA: Better: [Articles | Animal Legal & Historical Center](http://www.animallaw.info/articles/qvuspetsincars.htm)

According to that law, there are circumstances upon which someone may leave their dog in the car. That is certainly not what starwarsfreek’s initial claim implied at all.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/66 "2009-04-02T23:18:00Z")

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> [@Hyperelastic](#):
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> Now, I am as big a W.C. Fields fan as they come, but crap like calling people with kids “breeders” and calling kids “spawn” is just sad.

I prefer the term “crotch fruit”. 🙂

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I underlined restaurant for a reason.
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> If you bring your kid to a restaurant, CHANGE HIS FUCKING DIAPER. I DON’T WANT TO SMELL THAT WHILE I AM TRYING TO FUCKING EAT.

And for fuck’s sake, **do not change the diaper at or on the table!!!**

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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/67 "2009-04-02T23:20:37Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> According to that law, there are circumstances upon which someone may leave their dog in the car. That is certainly not what starwarsfreek’s initial claim implied at all.

That’s also for California. I’m in Alabama. Since the local ordinances aren’t listed at my city’s website, I have no cite except the sign downtown. Since it is raining, I am not going out to take a picture.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/68 "2009-04-02T23:28:09Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I don’t suppose anyone can point to a specific example of this child hate on the boards, can they?

It might even be better if that someone could be the OP, but he doesn’t seem to be showing up for the party here. It’s still early, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/69 "2009-04-02T23:32:37Z")

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> [@Jettboy](#):
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> I’ve noticed here on SDMB that a really _unbelievable_ number of people are endlessly opining about how much they hate children.

What if I just feel low-level distaste, kind of on par with how I feel about asparagus? How much pity does that get me?

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/70 "2009-04-02T23:54:21Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> It might even be better if that someone could be the OP, but he doesn’t seem to be showing up for the party here. It’s still early, I guess.

Give the guy a break! He’s probably out there saving the world by working on bringing another mouth to feed into it. My Hero!

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/71 "2009-04-03T00:08:23Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> He’s probably out there saving the world by working on bringing another mouth to feed into it.

With a rant like that, I doubt it. It takes some social skill to get that process going. 😉

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/72 "2009-04-03T00:16:04Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> I prefer the term “crotch fruit”. 🙂

I’ve always been rather fond of “fuck trophy.” 😉

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/73 "2009-04-03T00:25:15Z")

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I’ve read most, but not all, of the posts. To say that you hate children is a very disturbing comment.

I have two kids and love them with all my heart. How do you hate kids?

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**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/74 "2009-04-03T00:26:39Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I’ve read most, but not all, of the posts. To say that you hate children is a very disturbing comment.
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> I have two kids and love them with all my heart. How do you hate kids?

I know exactly what you mean. I feel the same way about Toaster Strudel.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/75 "2009-04-03T00:27:23Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Your dogs have hands?
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> Freaky.

Not only that, their pads smell like popcorn. Really. Take a sniff sometime (at home, of course. You get weird looks if you do this at the park).

I am in a category of Child-Hater not mentioned by the OP, the child-free adult who enjoys going out to restaurants and sending death glares in the direction of clueless parents who can’t be bothered to raise kids to behave in public. I do feel pity for daddy and mommy, of course\*. They’re the ones who have to take those brats home.

> [@Jodi](#):
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> What if I just feel low-level distaste, kind of on par with how I feel about asparagus?

You don’t like asparagus? You…_monster_.

\*after they leave.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/76 "2009-04-03T00:33:19Z")

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> [@starwarsfreek42](#):
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> You chose to have children, the burden is on you to prevent those children from inconveniencing the rest of society.

When my second graders at recess come to me with some weak-ass shit (Mr. Dorkness, Lani won’t play tag with me, and I want to play tag, but she wants to play on the swings!), I teach them the following move:

1. Raise your right hand.
2. Place the back of your hand against your forehead.
3. Roll your eyes toward the sky.
4. Moan, “Woe! Woe is me! Life is misery!”

I’m telling you this because you might wanna get ready.

Here’s the deal: you may think it’s the parent’s burden to prevent children from inconveniencing the rest of society, but for small values of inconveniencing, **the rest of society disagrees with you**. The rest of society (with a few exceptions) is pretty okay with being mildly inconvenienced by children on occasion. The rest of society is fine paying taxes for schools, with having special parking spaces for pregnant mothers, with having part of the grocery-cart space taken up with a child seat, and yes, with occasionally having to deal with a toddler meltdown on aisle 5.

I realize you don’t like this, and you don’t think this is fair. Fortunately, I have a solution:

1. Raise your right hand.
2. Place the back of your hand against your forehead.
3. Roll your eyes toward the sky.
4. Moan, “Woe! Woe is me! Life is misery!”

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/77 "2009-04-03T00:36:03Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I’ve read most, but not all, of the posts. To say that you hate children is a very disturbing comment.
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> I have two kids and love them with all my heart. How do you hate kids?

Practice.

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/78 "2009-04-03T00:40:17Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> To say that you hate children is a very disturbing comment.

Why does it disturb you?

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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/79 "2009-04-03T00:46:27Z")

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> [@starwarsfreek42](#):
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> That’s also for California. I’m in Alabama. Since the local ordinances aren’t listed at my city’s website, I have no cite except the sign downtown. Since it is raining, I am not going out to take a picture.

For **Labrador Deciever** , [here](http://www.florenceal.org/Public_Safety/Animal_Control/Important_Information/Local_Laws/index.html)is the law itself, which states that “No animal may be left unattended at any time in a vehicle.” The page doesn’t specify the fines or jail time, but there it is. Thanks to \*\*Gfactor \*\*for finding it.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-hate-children/491746/80 "2009-04-03T00:47:41Z")

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Well I don’t know where I stand in the OP’s view of the world. I’ve raised two daughters and love them dearly but now wouldn’t complain if I never had dealings with another child. I don’t fir neatly into the stereotypes provided.

I must not exist.

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