People who have not heard of major historical events

It’s a pity they probably wouldn’t understand Spanish, because I know both Christian Rap and Christian Metal artists but they sing in Spanish. Tierra Santa (=Holy Land) made an exception with Espronceda’s Pirate Song, but the rest of their work is all “Christ is risen!!! riff”.

You mean invaded and stole.

Most madrassa in the UK are an extra-curricular thing, they’ll be after school or at weekends. However…
My Mum’s a zoo manager, among other things, she organises tours of the place for groups. A couple of years ago, a Muslim girls’ school came round. They were all 16-18 years old.

Mum said the first thing that seemed off was on the phone beforehand, when she asked what the focus was for the tour. Little kids’ groups often have a trip like that as a treat or ice breaker, but for neurotypical kids over the age of about 12 a zoo trip is generally aimed at some part of the syllabus. They’ll want a talk about some biology topic, or they want to draw the animals or something. The contact for this group just said ‘Oh, educational stuff.’ :confused:

When they showed, they were all in niqabs, just eyes visible, and the zoo staff couldn’t work out who were the teachers and who were the students, not just due to the identical dress, but because no-one appeared to be in charge. They could read well enough to find the toilets and read the animal names off the signs, but the whole bunch, teachers included, just ran around pointing at things and squealing. Zero attention to the tour and no attempt by the teachers to impart any kind of information.

Basically the ‘school’ appeared to be a holding pen for Muslim girls not old enough to leave education in the UK. No actual teaching, because hey, they’re just going to get married and have kids soon, right? No need to mess up their brains by encouraging thinking. :mad:

I have a chunk of family that belongs to a church where TV, movies, etc. are banned. I remember a cousin asking me in the 70s who Archie Bunker was because all the kids at school were talking about him and the cousin didn’t want to appear stupid asking them who the guy was.

So I have never presumed that “everybody” has to know about any pop culture thing at all.

I have a relative who teaches at a charter school that has quite a few students that belong to basically a cult. These high schoolers just don’t know squat about a lot things. And since their group has a thing against facts this makes it hard for my relative to teach. They know so little and don’t want to learn much, esp. if it might contradict what they are taught at home. So if an event wasn’t important to their sect, they often don’t know about it and also don’t have any interest in learning about it.

I’d probably be one of them. I saw the first two movies in the theater when I was a teenager, and recognize BB8 and Jar Jar Binks, but I don’t, like, follow the movies frame by frame.

I’d be another. Call me haughty and in-own-eyes “superior”; but SW has always struck me as totally vacuous, and not something I’ve ever wanted to get into. I saw the first three films (I think) – trying to score points with a girl of whom I had hopes, and who greatly loved such stuff; after that came to nothing – “never again”.

I recall some years ago, causing amazement on a message board devoted to sci-fi / fantasy / “alternative” material, by innocently asking, “who’s Palpatine?”

I’ve never seen and never plan to see any of the Star Wars movies. I know the main characters and know a very basic good guys vs bad guys plotline but that’s it. When my friend showed me his toy BB-8 and asked me if I knew it’s name I said “R1D1???”

I’ve also never seen any of the Indiana Jones movies and my knowledge of the plot is, College Professor, Nazis, Holy Grail. Add any superhero movie after the original Superman, which is a vague memory. Oh…I saw some Fantastic 4 move that was kind of interesting, but don’t remember when or what it was about.

About ten years ago, one of my friends who was in her mid-20’s at the time watched Star Wars for the first time only because she was interested in him.

Huh??? :smack:

I meant to write: About ten years ago, one of my friends who was in her mid-20’s at the time, watched Star Wars for the first time only because she was interested in him (the guy she watched it with)! :stuck_out_tongue:

Speaking of pop culture, many have not read the Bible. Or even the Koran.

People not knowing significant events is hardly a surprise given there is so much and very little that can be taught via traditional- or no traditional- methods. Also people tend to be quite insular.

I read quite alot and all non fiction. However it was only in the last ten years that I learned of the Paris Commune, which I assume most people living in France would be aware of. Further you have the difficulty of countries white washing their history and parts that don’t support what their political representatives wish them to believe.

And even more confusing is the movies that come out that portray events as Hollywood likes to believe them- as an example I would use Disney’s example of the Boston Tea Party- which was quite distant from the truth.

Younger people in West Bengal often don’t know what the Holocaust was. They have a vague idea that Hitler was kind of an ally, because he fought against England, but that he might not have been the nicest guy. When you tell them that swastikas are perceived as hate symbols in many countries, plenty of West Bengalis are pretty surprised. (At least, that was true 10 years ago. I assume it’s still true now, but I don’t know that for sure.)

I met a guy in rural Brazil who had never heard of the existence of a foreign language. During our conversation on the bus, he told me that I talked funny. I said that English was my native language. He didn’t understand what I was talking about. So I said, “Hi. Nice to meet you. My name is Scribble, and I speak English.” He jumped back in shock, exclaiming, “Those are sounds animals make!” This same guy informed me that I couldn’t possibly be Jewish. Jews were people in the Bible, like the Akamites, or the Hittites. (And, before you ask–no, this guy didn’t seem to be joking or mentally impaired.)

I met someone else in the Ecuador/Peru border region who didn’t know that ice existed outside of stories and legends. As far as I could tell, he was pretty smart, but his and his entire social circle’s life experiences were limited to circumstances in which ice simply didn’t occur. (On the other hand, he thought it was hilarious and pathetic that I had no idea catfish got as big as they did in his local rivers, or that they barked and howled like wounded children. So my ignorance was as noteworthy to him as his was to me!)