# People who long rants and don't include tl;dr!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 25, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531 "2011-02-25T01:32:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/21 "2011-02-25T12:20:34Z")

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I accidently the whole rant.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/22 "2011-02-25T13:18:01Z")

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I’d have devastating rejoinders for every dumb post on this board, except that I’m far too busy saving lives and benefiting humanity. Gotta run Bye!

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/23 "2011-02-25T13:38:55Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> Next up: people who accidentally a whole word out of thread titles.

It’s only because his time is so important. You can’t expect a busy mover and shaker like **marochko** to waste valuable seconds typing _all_ the words.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/24 "2011-02-25T14:05:59Z")

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I don’t think I’ve seen anyone use a TL-DR summary at the end of a post here. Even though the OP was badly written, the idea has some merit.

It’s not so much an issue in Original Posts (maybe once a week there’s a WTF OP), but in long debates there’s a problem with Topic Drift. One debater makes a point and offers four supporting data points, then someone attacks the weakest of those four data points and gives three arguments against it.

The next person attacks the weakest of those three arguments, and from there it’s off to the hinterlands.

Including a one sentence summary at the end of a post might help keep discussions on track.

To summarize:Buttercup is marry’ Humperdinck in a little less than half an hour

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/25 "2011-02-25T14:24:52Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> Next up: people who accidentally a whole word out of thread titles.

I assume the title meant to say “People who **long for rants** …”

I know I sometimes get a longing for a good rant.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/26 "2011-02-25T14:33:03Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I’m sick of people who complain about how they’re sick of other people who complain.

Don’t give me that crap! Your kind makes my blood boil, you pustulent –

Oh. Complaints are in the next thread over, in 12A. This is abuse.

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**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/27 "2011-02-25T14:41:32Z")

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> I don’t think I’ve seen anyone use a TL-DR summary at the end of a post here. Even though the OP was badly written, the idea has some merit.
> 
> It’s not so much an issue in Original Posts (maybe once a week there’s a WTF OP), but in long debates there’s a problem with Topic Drift. One debater makes a point and offers four supporting data points, then someone attacks the weakest of those four data points and gives three arguments against it.
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> The next person attacks the weakest of those three arguments, and from there it’s off to the hinterlands.
> 
> Including a one sentence summary at the end of a post might help keep discussions on track.
> 
> To summarize:Buttercup is marry’ Humperdinck in a little less than half an hour

Nah, it’d be better to have the TLDR summary at the beginning. More like a TLDR abstract.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/28 "2011-02-25T16:16:09Z")

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This whole thread is tldr.  
tldr:  
People should make a tldr for threads so I don’t have to waste my time reading an entire thread, which is usually multiple pages long, and then at the end of the thread I come to find that I really don’t care about what the thread was about. I think as an enlightened people we could perform this little courtesy for each other and thus provide each other a little sense of community and friendship. I doubt this will get implemented though because there is such a wide range of personalities on this board and after all you can’t please all the people all the time unless we invent lifelike robots that can perform oral on demand for both genders.

tldr:  
We need to invent lifelike robots that can perform oral on demand for both genders.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/29 "2011-02-25T16:29:51Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> I find it amusing that some people loudly trumpet the fact that they’re intellectually lazy, have the attention span of children and an utter inability to digest anything longer than soundbytes.
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> If you don’t care about something, don’t read it. If you want to advertise your intellectual shortcomings, complain about how reading is hard and there are just so many words!

You lost me halfway through the first sentence. If you can’t make your point without all those words, then you suck.

eta: Tl;Dr  
you suck

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/30 "2011-02-25T16:34:50Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> noone is two words.

I thought it was short for nooner.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/31 "2011-02-25T16:46:53Z")

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Everybody knows about TLDR (or TL;DR).

But is there a sub for Too Stupid ; Why Did I Read That Shit?

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/32 "2011-02-25T16:58:04Z")

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> [@EvilTOJ](#):
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> The whole word?

Is that bad?

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/33 "2011-02-25T17:47:26Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Assuming that this isn’t a whoosh, no, that’s not their job.

Jeez, do I have to put a smiley face on everything ?

I’m just amused by the possibility of something like the following scenario:

Colibri: Hey, Czar. What’s up. Anything new in Opinion?  
Czarcasm: Well, you know, the usual. Lot polls today. Did you see that thing about “Which brand of paper clip to you prefer?” God Almighty, don’t these people have lives?  
Colibri: Yeah. What’re you having? (To bartender) Gimme a cuba libre.  
Czarcasm: Black coffee, thank you. Something has to wake me up. (Across the bar) Marley! Over here! (Marley23 approaches, sits down)  
Colibri: (Looks at Marley23) Man, are you peeved or what!  
Marley23: Hyperpeeved. But that’s no surprise.  
Czarcasm: Oh, you mean the latest between Dio and Rover?  
Marley23: Yeah, what else is new. 134 posts before I clocked out. I bet they’re still at it. Exactly like my 9- and 10-year-old—I just can’t spank them.  
Colbri: Huh. Oh, I got a text from Gfactor. He’s not gonna make it tonight. A lot of bannings, I guess.  
Czarcasm: Hey, what’s the deal with Ed recently.  
Colibri: Whaddya mean?  
Czarcasm: Moody all the time. Some kind of troll’s gotten into his bonnet  
Marley23: (To bartender) I’ll have the usual.  
Colibri: Right. I’ve noticed. Rumor is samclem’s moonlighting at another board. I bet that’s it. Passing on little tidbits (makes air quotation marks) if you know what I mean.  
Czarcasm: Hah! Wouldn’t surprise me one bit.  
Marely23: So, anyway, what was going on with that first-timer posting an entire divorce subpoena in Pointless? Was that legit?  
Colibri: I dunno. TLDR. Not my forum.  
Marely23: But the papers were being served to YOU.  
Colibri: 😕

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**Author:** ![Prelude\_to\_Fascination](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Prelude\_to\_Fascination](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prelude_to_Fascination)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/34 "2011-02-25T18:05:01Z")

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> [@marochko](#):
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> I am so fed up wit the amount of people on this board that go on and on and on about random crap that noone cares about. It wastes time. If the poster would just include a tl;dr (Too long; didn’t read) summary at the end of each rant or rave or craze than there will be a lot of peace in the world right now.
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> Tl;Dr  
> long rants that people make that don’t have a summary at the end for people whose time is important, like myself.

I don’t understand why people should put tl;dr at the end of _their own_ posts.

tl;dr

That makes it sound like I didn’t read my own post.

tl;dr

Maybe tl;dr should be used like the periods in one word sentences, like I. Don’t. Give. A. Fuck. About. The. OP.

tl;dr

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/35 "2011-02-25T18:18:10Z")

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Yeah, I always thought “tl;dr” was generally used to criticize someone _else_’s post, not summarize one’s own.

Still, OP, if your time is so all-fired important, why the fuck are you wasting so much of it reading all this “random crap that noone cares about” anyway?

tl;dr: Pit Fail.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/36 "2011-02-25T18:45:18Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> Jeez, do I have to put a smiley face on everything ?
> 
> I’m just amused by the possibility of something like the following scenario:
> 
> Colibri: Hey, Czar. What’s up. Anything new in Opinion?  
> Czarcasm: Well, you know, the usual. Lot polls today. Did you see that thing about “Which brand of paper clip to you prefer?” God Almighty, don’t these people have lives?  
> Colibri: Yeah. What’re you having? (To bartender) Gimme a cuba libre.  
> Czarcasm: Black coffee, thank you. Something has to wake me up. (Across the bar) Marley! Over here! (Marley23 approaches, sits down)  
> Colibri: (Looks at Marley23) Man, are you peeved or what!  
> Marley23: Hyperpeeved. But that’s no surprise.  
> Czarcasm: Oh, you mean the latest between Dio and Rover?  
> Marley23: Yeah, what else is new. 134 posts before I clocked out. I bet they’re still at it. Exactly like my 9- and 10-year-old—I just can’t spank them.  
> Colbri: Huh. Oh, I got a text from Gfactor. He’s not gonna make it tonight. A lot of bannings, I guess.  
> Czarcasm: Hey, what’s the deal with Ed recently.  
> Colibri: Whaddya mean?  
> Czarcasm: Moody all the time. Some kind of troll’s gotten into his bonnet  
> Marley23: (To bartender) I’ll have the usual.  
> Colibri: Right. I’ve noticed. Rumor is samclem’s moonlighting at another board. I bet that’s it. Passing on little tidbits (makes air quotation marks) if you know what I mean.  
> Czarcasm: Hah! Wouldn’t surprise me one bit.  
> Marely23: So, anyway, what was going on with that first-timer posting an entire divorce subpoena in Pointless? Was that legit?  
> Colibri: I dunno. TLDR. Not my forum.  
> Marely23: But the papers were being served to YOU.  
> Colibri: 😕

This made me laugh! If I get fired I’m blaming you.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/37 "2011-02-25T18:57:00Z")

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A quick summary would be okay. If it’s a Pit rant, we could call them “madstracts.”

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/38 "2011-02-25T18:58:43Z")

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I don’t know about you, but I want to read more _Adventures of the Mod Squad_ (or Moddies, as they’re known on the street).

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/39 "2011-02-25T20:30:17Z")

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There are way too many letters in the Latin alphabet. We should really trim it down to about eight letters, max. More than that just takes up too much space on the keyboard and is really too hard to keep straight.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-long-rants-and-dont-include-tl-dr/572531/40 "2011-02-25T22:41:34Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Everybody knows about TLDR (or TL;DR).
> 
> But is there a sub for Too Stupid ; Why Did I Read That Shit?

BUSTED! How did you know it stupid if you didn’t read it? Huh? Huh?

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