# People who think they're educated.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 6, 1999, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073 "1999-11-06T22:11:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 1999, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/21 "1999-11-08T06:36:00Z")

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> Just to clear things up, since it seems some of you can’t read as well as you can write, (Ha. Dry humour. I refuse to use smiley-faces.) I wasn’t whining about people who write well. Just about people who THINK they write well and use ‘keywords’ to try to ‘win’ an argument with righteous indignation.
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> - Konrad

But Konrad, I think I write well. But do I write well, or do I just THINK I write well? How am I to know?

[Aside]Since I’ve already hijacked this thread into a display of erudition, please don’t further venture off-topic; just leave me to my delusions[/Aside]

Going back to your original post, Konrad, the use of “sir” and “asshole” in the same sentence, is an example of a classic literary device called irony. The use of “sir”, “complete”, and “utter” add vehemence without having to resort to gutter language.

Some people prefer this. But there’s no accounting for taste…

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Sue from El Paso  
[members.aol.com/majormd/index.html](http://members.aol.com/majormd/index.html)

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**Author:** ![mikan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mikan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikan)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 1999, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/22 "1999-11-07T20:25:00Z")

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Me mikan. Me try to follow Konrad advice. But me think Sue and others right. Konrad not read as well as Konrad think he write. Konrad not get clever style mixing in short sentence, but Konrad criticize anyway. Oops, criticize big word, like individual.

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**Author:** ![Konrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@Konrad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Konrad)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 1999, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/23 "1999-11-07T22:41:00Z")

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Diane sez:

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> Ever hear of these words? condescending (adjective)

Oh, is that like when you give someone the definition of a word they already know?

But, you’re right in looking that word up, since you obviously don’t know what it means. See, calling someone ‘child’ would be condescending. Calling someone sir would not be.

Majormd sez:

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> the use of “sir” and “asshole” in the same sentence, is an example of a classic literary device called irony.

If you look at the actual thread it will be pretty clear that wasn’t the intention. The person who said that was using another ‘classic literary device’: pomp.

Mikan: That’s very refreshing. It’s nice that you can come out and say something completely wrong without any pretension. You may be a fool, but you’re not a pompous one. Congrats.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 1999, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/24 "1999-11-08T00:06:00Z")

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Konrad, I went to the thread. I read Smilingjaws’ post about the Down’s baby. I read your response. I clicked on your link. I read the Spacemoose “funny”.

Smilingjaws was kind.

But, you were right. I would not call you sir.

You are a slack-jawed, small-minded, bottom-feeding, filth-spewing piece of shit.

I used a grammar tool to check this. This post was rated for 8th grade. Maybe you’ll get it.

Are you happy now?

PS - Lest any gentle reader of this post be taken aback at it’s ferocity, and question it’s deservedness, the flame was for Konrad’s post in the thread he referenced above…

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Sue from El Paso  
[members.aol.com/majormd/index.html](http://members.aol.com/majormd/index.html)

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**Author:** ![mikan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mikan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikan)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 1999, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/25 "1999-11-08T01:25:00Z")

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Sue make boo boo. Sue use big words ferocity and deservedness and referenced.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 1999, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/26 "1999-11-08T02:53:00Z")

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Yes. Sue bad girl. Bad Sue, bad.

Konrad need to learn words. Condescend means to “assume an air of superiority” - per M&W.  
Someone tell Konrad what those big words mean and how the sarcastic (oops - big word) use of “sir” relates (uh ohhh, another big word).

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KITTEN  
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.

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**Author:** ![Rousseau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Rousseau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rousseau)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 1999, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/27 "1999-11-08T03:11:00Z")

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> What I’m trying to say here is that 1984 is not just a compilation of “We Shouldn’t Do Things Like This”.

No, I’d say that’s pretty much exactly what it is.

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The IQ of a group is equal to the IQ of the dumbest member divided by the number of people in the group.

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**Author:** ![Konrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@Konrad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Konrad)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 1999, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/28 "1999-11-08T21:13:00Z")

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Diane: Stop the charade! We both know you’re wrong! How much longer can you go on with this? Why do you keep pretending?

Rousseau:

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> > What I’m trying to say here is that 1984 is not just a compilation of “We Shouldn’t Do Things Like This”.
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> No, I’d say that’s pretty much exactly what it is.

The only person who was ever succesfull in publishing a list of no-no’s was Abraham.

MajorMD sez:

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> You are a slack-jawed,

Oh, hurt me baby! I like the abuse!

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> small-minded,

Oh yeah!

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> bottom-feeding,

Yes! Yes! Give it to me!

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> filth-spewing piece of shit.

Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaah…

Oh… pant… pant… aaaah…

Whew… But tell me babe, is that your proffessional opinion, or are you saving the best for last? _wink, wink_  
Reading those cartoons is only half the fun. Watching people’s reactions to them is the other half.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 1999, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/29 "1999-11-08T22:01:00Z")

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Konrad not know how words “You sir, are an asshole.” is assuming an _air of superiority_ (per definition of _condescend_ in M&W Dictionary). Konrad need to learn stuff.

Konrad use big word like charade in his debating because Konrad think he is edu. . eduka. . . ummmm. . . educ. . ated.

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\>^,^\<  
KITTEN  
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.

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**Author:** ![Rousseau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Rousseau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rousseau)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 1999, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/30 "1999-11-08T22:05:00Z")

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> The only person who was ever succesfull in publishing a list of no-no’s was Abraham.

Uh, don’t forget Karl Marx. Of course, he didn’t know he was doing it at the time. He needed Orwell to point it out for him.

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The IQ of a group is equal to the IQ of the dumbest member divided by the number of people in the group.

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**Author:** ![mikan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mikan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikan)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 1999, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/31 "1999-11-08T23:26:00Z")

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Also, mikan appreciate Konrad calling mikan fool. mikan think Konrad know what Konrad talking about. mikan honored to become second member of Konrad Fool Club. No pompous individuals allowed. Ass-lizard free with membership.

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**Author:** ![Konrad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f475e1/32.png) [@Konrad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Konrad)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 1999, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/32 "1999-11-08T23:45:00Z")

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> Ass-lizard free with membership.

Limit one per customer, void where prohibited.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 1999, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/33 "1999-11-08T23:47:00Z")

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I’ve always found my policy of valuing substance over form to be a sound one. After all, when it is all said and done, the quality of the ideas expressed is what is truly important, is it not?

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 1999, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/34 "1999-11-09T02:17:00Z")

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See the troll. See the troll pout. Pout, troll, pout.

Why does the troll pout? The troll is sad. The sad troll pouts. Pout, troll, pout.

Why is the troll sad? The troll sees words. The words are hard. The troll sees the hard words.

The words make the troll sad. The words are too hard. The troll does not know the words. See the troll pout. Pout, troll, pout.

The troll whines. Whine, troll, whine. Whine about the hard words.

See Sue. Sue is nice. See Sue talk to the troll. Sue talks to the troll nicely.

See the troll. The troll is mad. The mad troll says mean things. The troll wants food.

Sue reads the mean things. Sue is nice. Mean things make Sue mad.

Sue says bad things. Bad things make the troll happy. Sue feeds the troll. Silly Sue!

Sue does not see the troll. Sue does not hear the troll. Sue will not feed the troll. Die, troll, die.

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Sue from El Paso  
[members.aol.com/majormd/index.html](http://members.aol.com/majormd/index.html)

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 1999, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/35 "1999-11-09T02:22:00Z")

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Why, you pusillanimous purveyor of prognosticated pulchritude! Begone with thee, lest I smite thee with my quarterstaff!

(Actually, it’s a buck-and-a-quarter quarterstaff, but I’m not tellin’ _him_ that.)

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 1999, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/36 "1999-11-09T02:26:00Z")

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Oh, and I meant to say: Orwell’s “newspeak” in _1984_ was, in many ways, a parody of Esperanto. (Saying “ungood” instead of “bad” and “plusungood” instead of “awful”, f’rinstance, was based on the Esperanto uses of the “mal-” prefix and “-eg-” suffix.)

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 1999, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/37 "1999-11-09T03:30:00Z")

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I hereby nominate Sue’s post above for the “Classics” page!

::still gasping with laughter::

-Melin

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 1999, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/38 "1999-11-09T03:34:00Z")

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Seconded.

WOW!

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This space for rent.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 1999, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/39 "1999-11-09T04:20:00Z")

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Thirded.

PS - I guess I would be some kind of elitist self absorbed bitch by the big words that I like to flower my fillibusters with. Regretfully, I can’t think of a bigger word that Fillibuster at this moment to astound you.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 1999, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-who-think-theyre-educated/3073/40 "1999-11-09T04:25:00Z")

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> You,Sir , are a complete and utter asshole.

This was a typo, what he meant to say was

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> You, Sir, are a complete and \*\*otter \*\* asshole.

After all, he just may be a marine biologist.

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