# People with Exactly Two Children and At Least One Daughter

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 19, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608 "2010-01-19T20:37:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/1 "2010-01-19T20:37:14Z")

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Do you have two daughters, or one son and one daughter?

Please only answer the poll if you have exactly two children, and at least one is a daughter. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/2 "2010-01-19T20:39:12Z")

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I’m kinda wondering why you want to know this.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/3 "2010-01-19T20:43:43Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I’m kinda wondering why you want to know this.

[This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=548215).

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/4 "2010-01-19T20:46:32Z")

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Can I answer on behalf of any of my cousins’ families? All three have one boy and one girl.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/5 "2010-01-19T20:47:53Z")

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5 year old boy, 3 year old girl here.

If you want a bigger sampling, couldn’t you just ask people to answer based on their oldest two kids? Pretending they never had any more after that.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/6 "2010-01-19T20:48:06Z")

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Two children, both girls.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/7 "2010-01-19T20:54:16Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> 5 year old boy, 3 year old girl here.
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> If you want a bigger sampling, couldn’t you just ask people to answer based on their oldest two kids? Pretending they never had any more after that.

I don’t want to, in case there’s some argument to be made that people with two older daughters, or one older daughter and one older son, would be more likely to vote- some weird variation on the illusory correlation problem. I don’t know which way it would go, but no need to muddy the waters.

> [@garygnu](#):
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> Can I answer on behalf of any of my cousins’ families? All three have one boy and one girl.

Let’s keep it simple. Besides, people only get one vote.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/8 "2010-01-19T21:00:18Z")

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With a sufficient sample, you sould find that 67% will answer one of each. (Right now it’s 100%).

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/9 "2010-01-19T21:15:44Z")

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Can I answer for my parents? They’ve got two kids, and I’m their only daughter.

I’ve got no kids.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/10 "2010-01-19T21:16:56Z")

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I couldn’t make heads nor tails out of the linked thread (and please, I’m begging you, don’t try to explain it to me).

My boy and girl are fraternal twins if that has any bearing to the results.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/11 "2010-01-19T21:17:46Z")

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What if I don’t have kids but my Parents had 2 kids (including me), do you want me to answer for them?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/12 "2010-01-19T21:34:34Z")

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You know, I understand it shouldn’t affect the results, but since the question this is based on says somebody has two kids, let’s make all respondents live by the same rules. Otherwise, I could point out that I have two kids, but I am also one of exactly two children, and I could answer for that if I didn’t have my own children, etc.

I want to KISS it, so that doubters have the least ammunition possible to explain why reality is wrong.

In other words, I’m politely requesting that people only answer for their own kids, if they have exactly two with at least one daughter. Everyone else sit on your hands.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/13 "2010-01-19T22:00:43Z")

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Two girls.

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**Author:** ![Hedda\_Rosa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hedda_rosa/32/1204_2.png) [@Hedda\_Rosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hedda_Rosa)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/14 "2010-01-19T22:03:45Z")

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one of each

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/15 "2010-01-19T22:14:04Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> My boy and girl are fraternal twins if that has any bearing to the results.

The only situation that would skew the results (apart from infanticide or abortion based on the child’s gender) would be a family with just a pair of identical twins, since that makes BB or GG slightly more likely that BG or GB. But since identical twins are relatively rare, I don’t think you’re going to see an affect on the result.

And I didn’t vote, because I have 4 children. (BBGB for those interested).

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/16 "2010-01-19T22:20:59Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> You know, I understand it shouldn’t affect the results, but since the question this is based on says somebody has two kids, let’s make all respondents live by the same rules. Otherwise, I could point out that I have two kids, but I am also one of exactly two children, and I could answer for that if I didn’t have my own children, etc.
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> I want to KISS it, so that doubters have the least ammunition possible to explain why reality is wrong.
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> In other words, I’m politely requesting that people only answer for their own kids, if they have exactly two with at least one daughter. Everyone else sit on your hands.

I suspect your problem will be that the sample size will be rather small, then. First you’re going to eliminate the child-free/childless. Then you eliminate anyone who has only one child. Then you eliminate anyone who has more than one child. Finally, you eliminate people who don’t have a daughter

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/17 "2010-01-19T22:35:23Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I suspect your problem will be that the sample size will be rather small, then. First you’re going to eliminate the child-free/childless. Then you eliminate anyone who has only one child. Then you eliminate anyone who has more than one child. Finally, you eliminate people who don’t have a daughter

30 responses so far assuming they’re all valid. Seems pretty good.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/18 "2010-01-19T22:36:59Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I suspect your problem will be that the sample size will be rather small, then. First you’re going to eliminate the child-free/childless. Then you eliminate anyone who has only one child. Then you eliminate anyone who has more than one child. Finally, you eliminate people who don’t have a daughter

Depends. If all I want to do is reject the null hypothesis (that the true split should be 50/50) I think I’ve already got enough (haven’t run the numbers - will tonight).

If I want to say the real split should be within X% of 66.666% to 33.333%, well, I might need more.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/19 "2010-01-19T22:39:18Z")

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It’s currently about 35.5% to 64.5%, which is much closer to the 33.3/66.7 split than it is to the 50/50 split.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-with-exactly-two-children-and-at-least-one-daughter/525608/20 "2010-01-19T23:03:53Z")

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It’s currently 11-22. Math wins!

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