# Perciful:  You are a Disgusting Racist and Xenophobe, and an Idiot Besides

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**Created:** [May 25, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702 "2010-05-25T14:48:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/1 "2010-05-25T14:48:26Z")

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In [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=564437), the OP requested information on possible cultural differences that might be relevant when dating a Thai woman. **Perciful** posted the following:

> [@Dating advice of the Thai variety](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dating-advice-of-the-thai-variety/540636/26):
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> Thai people are all about the money. They love money and that is not a bad thing if you also love making money and giving it all to your spouse and her family to have her. She may be a hard worker herself as most Thai people are but it will be nothing but money, money, money that she will care about. My Mom worked with a lot of them and they send all their money back home to their families.
> 
> I saw a documentary of some poor guy that went to Thailand and was killed. They finally found out it was his Thai wife that set it up so she could cash in on his life insurance. She had her first husband killed also. Thailand is in a uproar and the police don’t investigate homicides like in the US. I wouldn’t be caught “dead” in Thailand right now.
> 
> She won’t marry beneath her so unless you are a doctor or independently wealthy I would not waste my time. They don’t marry for love but for money and social status. Culturally they are very different from us. So if she was a poor Thai you might be a catch but where she is a rich Thai you would have to be richer then her and her family.
> 
> Ask yourself, Do I really want to be a part of this culture? Do I really want to be a wallet for a foreign woman?

I don’t know what to say to this. I really don’t.

In [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=561509), the OP was concerned because her boyfriend had lost interest in sex and she was feeling pretty bad about it. She explained that he was going through a stressful period and thought that might be a factor. In the very second reply, **Perciful** said:

> [@My boyfriend is no longer interested in sex, what's going on?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boyfriend-is-no-longer-interested-in-sex-whats-going-on/537852/3):
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> I dated a guy like this… He was a bisexual cheater. I was the last to know. The tip off for me was the small bed bit, the excuses, the way you kiss. He doesn’t want you to live with him because then he would be exposed. The guy I dated for almost two years called me every night too but I eventually found out the farce by accident. I was part of a very sick thing and something inside told me there was a problem. Follow your gut.
> 
> Sex is very important for men. If he has cut way back he’s getting it somewhere else. If he doesn’t think you kiss hard enough Hello?! He doesn’t like the way you sleep with pj’s? You might just be a front for this guy.
> 
> I’d hire a PI and find out what is really going on or move on. After 2 years you should either be moving towards living together and marriage or onto something else. I hope I am wrong but something is wrong and you owe it to yourself to find out. It sounds like he has an excuse for everything but penises don’t lie well.
> 
> My mother dated a man for three years only to find out he was a pedophile. I never got a good feeling around him and he drank too much. Someone in his family called my Mother and told her the truth and she dumped him. He was a retired teacher!

Fortunately, the suggestion that the boyfriend was a pedophilic alcoholic bisexual cheater didn’t _completely_ derail the thread.

As it continued, many men confessed that they themselves had gone through periods of low libido due to stress factors. **Perciful** ’s response?

> [@My boyfriend is no longer interested in sex, what's going on?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boyfriend-is-no-longer-interested-in-sex-whats-going-on/537852/70):
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> Real men will plow you no matter what kind of day they had.

So she just said that practically every guy in the thread isn’t a real man. Charming.

Later, **Alice the Goon** tries to take up for her a little, saying “You guys need to give \*\*Perciful \*\*a break. She’s old- she comes from a time when men were men, and if he wasn’t fucking you, he was fucking _somebody_” I have to respectfully disagree with that. Being old is no excuse for being an insensitive moron.

It’s not like we have a shortage of insensitive morons on this board, but at least with most of them, you can see that their idiocy is based on on a consistent set of deeply held convictions, such as religion or raging narcissism. But **Perciful** ’s moronic insensitivity doesn’t seem to have any basis other than her own random delusions. And worse than that, she has no hesitation about saying such hurtful things!

**Perciful** is worse than useless and just flat-out disgusting.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/2 "2010-05-25T14:56:15Z")

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The comments about Thai people are clearly xenophobic and silly and tendentious.

The stuff about guys that aren’t putting out is not a big deal, and she was raising some plausible, legitimate questions. If a guy isn’t doing his girlfriend anymore, it very often IS because he’s getting it somewhere else, or because he’s not really into women.

That’s not the case 100% of the time, of course, but both scenarios happen with enough frequency that it isn’t ridiculous to consider them.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/3 "2010-05-25T15:09:06Z")

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Perciful is just full of great stuff. In [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=564317)on encountering assholes in day to day life, she posts

> [@Perciful](#):
>
> People are respectful in my town but tonight there were two shady looking guys jaywalking towards my car. I pulled out and one of them yelled, “There was a stop sign there you dumb B”. I just didn’t want them any closer to me so I took off. Sometimes you just have to be safe.

as an example of \*their \*assholishness, not, you know, the asshole in the car who runs the stop sign when pedestrians are crossing.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/4 "2010-05-25T15:19:12Z")

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Yeah, **Dio** , but you were one of the few that AGREED with her stupid ass. It’s not ridiculous to consider it as an option, but it’s ridiculous to state it as a fact.

Wait just a minute…you said the following in the above thread:

> [@My boyfriend is no longer interested in sex, what's going on?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-boyfriend-is-no-longer-interested-in-sex-whats-going-on/537852/40):
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> That’s just an excuse when guys say that. It means they’re getting it somewhere else, they’re gay or they’re not attracted to the woman anymore.

And in this thread you said that it might not always be true:

> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> …If a guy isn’t doing his girlfriend anymore, it very often IS because he’s getting it somewhere else, or because he’s not really into women.
> 
> That’s not the case 100% of the time, of course, but both scenarios happen with enough frequency that it isn’t ridiculous to consider them.

Holy crap! **Dio** just conceded that he’s not always right!! Sticky this thread folks and save it for posterity.

Wow. I feel so…satisfied.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/5 "2010-05-25T15:23:18Z")

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Am I alone in thinking **Perciful** is actually the loving creation of someone cleverer that she appears to be?

(Possibly a chimera taken from DNA of Sarah Palin and one of the “Where’s The Beef” ladies?)

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/6 "2010-05-25T15:26:41Z")

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Well I don’t know why you had to bring me into this- in the quoted thread I was only trying to point out that she\* is\* old, and back in her day, that was the general thought process. Some folks get trapped back in time, back when they were relevant, and they don’t grow and change like others do. I didn’t have anything to do with her Thai thread remarks- that’s clearly off the deep end, right there.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/7 "2010-05-25T15:28:10Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The stuff about guys that aren’t putting out is not a big deal, and she was raising some plausible, legitimate questions. If a guy isn’t doing his girlfriend anymore, it very often IS because he’s getting it somewhere else, or because he’s not really into women.
> 
> That’s not the case 100% of the time, of course, but both scenarios happen with enough frequency that it isn’t ridiculous to consider them.

While I agree that it’s a legitimate concern, I think there’s better ways to bring up the possibility that giving two pretty extreme anecdotes and making no mention of any possible signs. When it’s patently clear that the OP is under stress (SO possibly losing his job, lump in her breast, lack of initimacy in the relationship), I think it could have been done more tactfully. I think it was apparent that the OP was already aware of that possibility and was giving some of the context of the situation so people could say “sure, stress sounds reasonable” or “no, sounds fishy to me”, and not “he might be gay or a pedophile”.

And, again, while it may be a legitimate concern, given the level of stress, I don’t think it’s unreasonable that stress is the problem. But moreover, I don’t think that post alone is enough reason for **Green Bean** here to have pitted **Perciful** , but the fact that she later came in and basically asserted that he was definitely cheating with that last comment. So, quite honestly, it seems a little misandristic to me.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/8 "2010-05-25T15:32:53Z")

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I’m not sure it’s misandristic, but she does seem to extropolate a lot from personal, anecdotal experience, and it sounds like she’s had some bad luck with men.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/9 "2010-05-25T15:37:52Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Yeah, **Dio** , but you were one of the few that AGREED with her stupid ass. It’s not ridiculous to consider it as an option, but it’s ridiculous to state it as a fact.
> 
> Wait just a minute…you said the following in the above thread:  
> And in this thread you said that it might not always be true:
> 
> Holy crap! **Dio** just conceded that he’s not always right!! Sticky this thread folks and save it for posterity.

But also to his credit, he also admitted in that thread that he has never been clinically depressed, so has no experience with the effects of that condition.

I thought **Perciful** WAS Sarah Palin as she would be on the Dope.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/10 "2010-05-25T15:43:56Z")

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Sorry about that **Alice**. You were just part of the story. And besides, I do disagree that people should get a pass for being old. I’ll give them a partial pass for believing some stupid stuff, but not for saying it. If they’re old enough to be old, they’re old enough to know better.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/11 "2010-05-25T15:46:56Z")

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Perciful is, I hope, a troll.

That’s some quality stupid, if not. Her contributions to the evolution threads were priceless.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/12 "2010-05-25T15:52:39Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Sorry about that **Alice**. You were just part of the story. And besides, I do disagree that people should get a pass for being old. I’ll give them a partial pass for believing some stupid stuff, but not for saying it. If they’re old enough to be old, they’re old enough to know better.

I don’t have a cite handy at the moment, but I’m fairly certain that there are legitimate, physiological reasons why the elderly are more likely to say things that the rest of us would consider less than tactful. Call it a loss of filter.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/13 "2010-05-25T16:19:56Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I’m not sure it’s misandristic, but she does seem to extropolate a lot from personal, anecdotal experience, and it sounds like she’s had some bad luck with men.

My guess is it wasn’t any picnic for the men, either.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/14 "2010-05-25T16:20:32Z")

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I endorse this Pitting. I didn’t to derail the other thread so I kept my response short and to the point, but you said pretty much everything I would have, **Green Bean**.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/15 "2010-05-25T16:21:16Z")

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Based on the quote Eyebrows brough up in #3, I’d vote “troll” rather than “idiot”.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/16 "2010-05-25T17:19:58Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> I don’t have a cite handy at the moment, but I’m fairly certain that there are legitimate, physiological reasons why the elderly are more likely to say things that the rest of us would consider less than tactful. Call it a loss of filter.

I don’t think she’s that old. I do think she’s that clueless.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/17 "2010-05-25T17:29:54Z")

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> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#):
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> Well I don’t know why you had to bring me into this- in the quoted thread I was only trying to point out that she\* is\* old, and back in her day, that was the general thought process. Some folks get trapped back in time, back when they were relevant, and they don’t grow and change like others do. I didn’t have anything to do with her Thai thread remarks- that’s clearly off the deep end, right there.

How old is she?

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**Author:** ![Monstera\_deliciosa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monstera_deliciosa/32/109_2.png) [@Monstera\_deliciosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstera_deliciosa)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/18 "2010-05-25T17:33:02Z")

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She isn’t that old. I just looked at some of her old posts and she mentions growing up in the 60s and 70s. That would put her somewhere in her early to mid 50s at the oldest. I would describe myself as growing up in the 60s and 70s, and I’m not quite 50 yet.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/19 "2010-05-25T17:42:11Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> I don’t think she’s that old. I do think she’s that clueless.

I think it’s either that or troll.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perciful-you-are-a-disgusting-racist-and-xenophobe-and-an-idiot-besides/540702/20 "2010-05-25T17:46:59Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> . . . but she does seem to extropolate a lot from personal, anecdotal experience, . . . .

Now, I need a new irony meter. 😃

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