# Permission to swear?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 15, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475 "2006-03-15T16:49:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jayn\_Newell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jayn\_Newell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayn_Newell)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/61 "2006-03-16T13:02:54Z")

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This thread just makes me want to say…

What the heck? 😉

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/62 "2006-03-16T13:04:39Z")

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> [@rayh](#):
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> **NineToTheSky** eats fucking stupid food for breakfast.
> 
> _Clown Porn!_

This is getting scary! How do you know what I eat for breakfast? Are you there and I can’t see you?

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/63 "2006-03-16T13:49:49Z")

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> [@NineToTheSky](#):
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> This is getting scary! How do you know what I eat for breakfast? Are you there and I can’t see you?

The Welsh have _strange_ powers.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/64 "2006-03-16T14:20:14Z")

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> [@Me](#):
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> Oh, and when you’re done reading that, there’s a one word essay due by Friday.

> [@Uzi](#):
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> Fuck.

Excellent essay. I’ll grade that a [Fuckin’ A](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mfuckina.html).

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/65 "2006-03-16T16:01:11Z")

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> [@DeadlyAccurate](#):
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> Dudes, you’re not fooling anyone with using an asterisk in place of the “u”. Believe it or not, the mods are smart enough to figure out f\*ck means “fuck.”

Huh, I always thought that it meant “flat bed truck”. It all makes sense now.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/66 "2006-03-16T17:21:08Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> What Cheney hasn’t given No-Bid contracts to his own Company?

Cheney may very well be an evil bag of shit, but, no, he hasn’t. Awarding goverment contracts is not a function which accrues to the vice presidency. Neither is authoring RFPs. The VP may be able to exercise some influence over the process, but damned little of it. Theres are two whole huge sections of of the U.S. Code called FARS (Federal Acquistion Regulation System) & DFARS (Defense Federal Acquistion Regulation Supplement) which govern the manner in which the executive branch may award federal contracts. In neither of these, will you find any powers given to the office of the vice president.

FARS:  
[http://www.acqnet.gov/far/loadmainre.html](http://www.acqnet.gov/far/loadmainre.html)  
DFARS: [http://farsite.hill.af.mil/reghtml/regs/far2afmcfars/fardfars/dfars/dfars201.htm](http://farsite.hill.af.mil/reghtml/regs/far2afmcfars/fardfars/dfars/dfars201.htm)

> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Not too likely, don’t worry, I just thought as long as we were in the pit, I might as well vent about my least favorite Politician.

As long as you’re gonna vent about your least favorite politican, you might as well strive for accuracy. There are plenty of _real, actual_ things that evil bag of shit has done about which you can legitimately vent; this simply ain’t one of 'em.

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**Author:** ![FlyingCowOfDoom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyingcowofdoom/32/21776_2.png) [@FlyingCowOfDoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingCowOfDoom)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/67 "2006-03-16T17:27:50Z")

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So, can I say this:

Jap fucker pussy nigger nazi tit dick cunt fuck ass bitch jew shit kike spic honky shit piss snatch slut blumpie hairy shit can bean pakie twat box wop gook diddling cum guzzler

?

–FCOD

P.S. – Bonus points if you can identify the source of that ‘phrase’.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/68 "2006-03-16T17:29:13Z")

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> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> Cheney may very well be an evil bag of shit, but, no, he hasn’t. Awarding goverment contracts is not a function which accrues to the vice presidency. Neither is authoring RFPs. The VP may be able to exercise some influence over the process, but damned little of it. Theres are two whole huge sections of of the U.S. Code called FARS (Federal Acquistion Regulation System) & DFARS (Defense Federal Acquistion Regulation Supplement) which govern the manner in which the executive branch may award federal contracts. In neither of these, will you find any powers given to the office of the vice president.
> 
> FARS:  
> [http://www.acqnet.gov/far/loadmainre.html](http://www.acqnet.gov/far/loadmainre.html)  
> DFARS: [http://farsite.hill.af.mil/reghtml/regs/far2afmcfars/fardfars/dfars/dfars201.htm](http://farsite.hill.af.mil/reghtml/regs/far2afmcfars/fardfars/dfars/dfars201.htm)  
> As long as you’re gonna vent about your least favorite politican, you might as well strive for accuracy. There are plenty of _real, actual_ things that evil bag of shit has done about which you can legitimately vent; this simply ain’t one of 'em.

You are technically correct in what you say, but Bull, he used his heavy influence to get contracts to his own company.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/69 "2006-03-16T17:32:55Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> You are technically correct in what you say, but Bull, he used his heavy influence to get contracts to his own company.

Personally, I think it was more a case of “sucking up to the boss”. The people in the various agencies involved damn well know who’s in charge, and choosing Cheney’s old company is bound to be seen as a good decision by the political higher ups in the administration.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/70 "2006-03-16T17:36:45Z")

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> [@FlyingCowOfDoom](#):
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> So, can I say this:
> 
> Jap fucker pussy nigger nazi tit dick cunt fuck ass bitch jew shit kike spic honky shit piss snatch slut blumpie hairy shit can bean pakie twat box wop gook diddling cum guzzler
> 
> ?
> 
> –FCOD
> 
> P.S. – Bonus points if you can identify the source of that ‘phrase’.

You forgot gringo white trash.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/71 "2006-03-16T17:47:38Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> You are technically correct in what you say, but Bull, he used his heavy influence to get contracts to his own company.
> 
> Jim

Halliburton is publically traded company which has thousands of shareholders. It patently is not “his own company.” But hey, what the fuck. Feel free to continue to distort the actual fucking facts, if it serves to inflate your anger and you feel better when you’re angry. You look kinda stupid having to manufacture indignation when there’s enough around to be had without disposing of reason.

> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> Personally, I think it was more a case of “sucking up to the boss”. The people in the various agencies involved damn well know who’s in charge, and choosing Cheney’s old company is bound to be seen as a good decision by the political higher ups in the administration.

Not very likely. There are thousands of functionaries in the various departments of the executive branch who’re tasked with contract management. I highly doubt Cheney knows the name of any of 'em, or what decisions any of 'em are making.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/72 "2006-03-16T18:20:10Z")

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> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> Halliburton is publically traded company which has thousands of shareholders. It patently is not “his own company.” But hey, what the fuck. Feel free to continue to distort the actual fucking facts, if it serves to inflate your anger and you feel better when you’re angry. You look kinda stupid having to manufacture indignation when there’s enough around to be had without disposing of reason.  
> …

Cheney wasn’t CEO of Haliburton before stepping down to run for VP?  
I guess you’ve never closely associated a CEO with a Company before.  
So you who like technicalities, would you consider Microsoft to be Bill Gates’ Company?  
So I am kind of stupid for considering Haliburton to be Cheney’s company.  
Am I allowed to be pissed at him for lecturing McCain on Torture, or is that also verbatim?  
I still cry Bullshit at your posts.

Jim

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/73 "2006-03-16T20:58:34Z")

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> [@FlyingCowOfDoom](#):
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> So, can I say this:
> 
> . . .

Only if you are foolish enough to ignore this:  
[no spoiler needed] [We do frown on ethnic and racial slurs and a few other forms of disparaging language, but that matter is open to a certain amount of interpretation (and a lot of acrimony), so you are well advised to avoid it.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7199419&postcount=17) [/no spoiler]

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/74 "2006-03-16T21:06:40Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Cheney wasn’t CEO of Haliburton before stepping down to run for VP?  
> I guess you’ve never closely associated a CEO with a Company before.  
> So you who like technicalities, would you consider Microsoft to be Bill Gates’ Company?  
> So I am kind of stupid for considering Haliburton to be Cheney’s company.  
> Am I allowed to be pissed at him for lecturing McCain on Torture, or is that also verbatim?  
> I still cry Bullshit at your posts.
> 
> Jim

Easy, buddy. Some people around here are still a bit butthurt since their idols have turned out to have feet of clay. Even what was an obvious joke about no-bid contracts causes them to rail when they could’ve otherwise just not bothered to post.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/75 "2006-03-16T21:25:04Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> There is no prohibition against **swearing** in any Forum on the Straight Dope®. You may invoke the deity of your choice to confirm the accuracy of your statements in any post, (although it may cause other posters to laugh at you or consider you odd–it’s just a message board).
> 
> There is also no prohibition against **profanity** , **vulgarity** , or **obscenity** in any Forum on the Straight Dope®,  
> **provided** it is aimed at persons or objects who do **not** also post on the Straight Dope®.\<snip\>

You guys are missing the critical point here - do we have to put that stupid R in a circle after the Straight Dope now? Cause I don’t know how to do that, and I don’t want to, anyway.

If you guys keep blathering about Cheney and Halliburton, I might break my self-imposed rule about swearing in public.

**crowmanyclouds** , that was beautiful, man. I think I misted up a little bit.

And welcome to these freakin’ boards, **Nine**. 😃

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/76 "2006-03-16T21:26:49Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> Easy, buddy. Some people around here are still a bit butthurt since their idols have turned out to have feet of clay. Even what was an obvious joke about no-bid contracts causes them to rail when they could’ve otherwise just not bothered to post.

I guess I did go into the seeing red mode. Your right, my first post started as joke. My loathing for Cheney did come through too strong.

Jim

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/77 "2006-03-16T21:34:11Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> Easy, buddy. Some people around here are still a bit butthurt since their idols have turned out to have feet of clay. Even what was an obvious joke about no-bid contracts causes them to rail when they could’ve otherwise just not bothered to post.

This comment makes sense only if you willfully ignore much of the content of my posts in this thread. I am absolutely certain I’ve said nothing in Cheney’s defense in this thread. I’m almost as certain I’ve not defended Cheney, in any way, at any time, in any thread on this board. The only issue I have here is with the What Exit?'s cavalier disregard for facts.

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/78 "2006-03-16T21:44:24Z")

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> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> This comment makes sense only if you willfully ignore much of the content of my posts in this thread. I am absolutely certain I’ve said nothing in Cheney’s defense in this thread. I’m almost as certain I’ve not defended Cheney, in any way, at any time, in any thread on this board. The only issue I have here is with the What Exit?'s cavalier disregard for facts.

It was a throwaway joke at Cheney’s expense. Dude, we do those all the time. I know you’re a Republican, and being on a left leaning board can get tedious, but you could’ve just ignored it and walked away. Hell, I don’t know how many bullshit assertions I’ve seen that’ve pissed me off today. Doesn’t mean a response is required.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/79 "2006-03-16T22:22:16Z")

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P’hraps it was, p’hraps it was. But that didn’t stop _you_ from interjecting either. And with an erroneous inference I might add.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/80 "2006-03-16T22:24:52Z")

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Oh yeah. I don’t really think of myself as a Republican anymore; haven’t for some time now. The cretins running that party have taken it far, far away from the conservative principles which first brought me to it.

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