# Permission to swear?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 15, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475 "2006-03-15T16:49:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/81 "2006-03-16T22:32:56Z")

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_shrug_  
True enough. But I think we’ve already established that I’m nosy as hell.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/82 "2006-03-17T00:19:46Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> _shrug_  
> True enough. But I think we’ve already established that I’m nosy as hell.

Thanks for calming me down and thanks for the assist.

**UncleBeer** : Your statements are technically true. As far as my “cavalier disregard for facts”. Let me ask if this is at least reasonable if not accurate.

- The current Bush/Cheney administration through the offices of the executive branch did give No-Bid contracts to Haliburton.
- Cheney is a very influential and powerful VP, probably the most powerful since Nixon under Ike.
- Cheney was the CEO of Haliburton until he stepped down to run as Bush’s running mate.
- Many people (inaccurately) do associate companies with powerful and well known CEO’s

If you can accept these statements then my Jokingly saying “Did he give more no bids to Haliburton?” could be taken as a not unreasonable joke at his expense.

Is my logic at all reasonable to you?  
It really was not a silly joke but I think it passes a reasonableness test.

Jim

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/83 "2006-03-17T01:31:18Z")

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> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> Cheney may very well be an evil bag of shit, but, no, he hasn’t. Awarding goverment contracts is not a function which accrues to the vice presidency.

Well Holy Christ on a Crutch! Why the fucking hell not? Tell that maggot trainee to get his ass in gear! I wanna see nothing but assholes and elbows! We need some shit to fucking bitch about! Fuckin’ A!

That is all. Dismissed! 😃

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/84 "2006-03-17T01:55:38Z")

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See what happens when you post a joke thread in the Pit, **Nine**? I hope you’ve learned your lesson now.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/85 "2006-03-17T02:37:02Z")

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And by the way, fellow-babies…  
**booger**.  
😃

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/86 "2006-03-17T03:04:16Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> And by the way, fellow-babies…  
> **booger**.  
> 😃

Is that you Dr. Johnny Fever?

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/87 "2006-03-17T03:26:19Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Am I allowed to be pissed at him for lecturing McCain on Torture, or is that also **verbatim**?

Well, your bitching is likely _ **verbatim** _ of whatever you’ve read that day on DailyKos. Bitching about Cheney, and the oppression you feel on these boards doing so, is certainly not _ **verboten** _.

BTW, the no-bid contracts are for jobs in areas of expertice that no other company can hold a candle to. I understand your skewed world-view, but sometimes it’s best to hire the best firm for the job.

Out of curiosity, can you tell me the last time Cheney cast a vote in any stockholder meeting? Any executive meeting? Anything that involces the workings of Halliburton? If so, that’s how you get him. Not by railing on anything and everything he does or you think he does. I know, I know, he used to be CEO. When he isn’t VP he’ll also be the former CEO. So it could be argued (as I’m sure you will in a couple years) that he’ll use his former VP position to get no-bid contracts for Halliburton.

How many politicians have either been business leaders before getting elected, or became businessmen after leaving office? Based on your paranoia, every one of them must be crooked. Everything is suspect they do. Would you support a rule that anyone involved in politics or business cannot be associated with the other, ever? That’s the only way to clear this suspicion up.  
**Nine** , sorry for the continued hijack. But as you’ll learn, even a Pit thread about someone that gets ripped off by a mechanic will, more often than not, turn into one of these diatribes about the current Administration. It becomes a bit predicatable and at times tedious, but sometimes it comes from so far out of left field you can’t help yourself sitting back in awe. It can be quite impressive.  
**CMC** , that was great! Thanks for the laugh!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/88 "2006-03-17T03:37:04Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Well, your bitching is likely _ **verbatim** _ of whatever you’ve read that day on DailyKos. Bitching about Cheney, and the oppression you feel on these boards doing so, is certainly not _ **verboten** _.  
> …snip…

Thank you for the word correction.  
What is DailyKos?  
If it is a liberal rag, believe it or not I am a Republican Veteran. My liberal readings are only newsletters from GreenPeace, Sierra Club or Clearwater.  
Have a good night.

Jim

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/89 "2006-03-17T03:52:50Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Have a good night.
> 
> Jim

Thanks, hope the same for you. _holds up beer bottle for cyber-toast_😉

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/90 "2006-03-17T09:24:13Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> **Nine** , sorry for the continued hijack. But as you’ll learn, even a Pit thread about someone that gets ripped off by a mechanic will, more often than not, turn into one of these diatribes about the current Administration. It becomes a bit predicatable and at times tedious, but sometimes it comes from so far out of left field you can’t help yourself sitting back in awe. It can be quite impressive.

That’s OK. But being an ignorant Brit, I don’t about this Cheney phenomenon. Should I learn to hate him?

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> **CMC** , that was great! Thanks for the laugh!

As I’ve already said: what a great welcome! I’ll always remember it.

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/91 "2006-03-17T09:28:32Z")

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This has been a fun learning curve. As far as I can see, my post hasn’t fought any ignorance; was completely pointless; thereby setting myself up as that most hated Dope creature: a jerk; and I’ve already been (gently) cautioned by a mod.

Ah well! Start as you mean to go on, I always say. 😃

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/92 "2006-03-17T09:39:32Z")

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It should, of course, be: I don’t **know** about this Cheney phenomenon. :smack:

Isn’t it funny how the fingers/brain/keyboard interface breaks down from time to time?

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/93 "2006-03-17T15:40:11Z")

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> [@NineToTheSky](#):
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> That’s OK. But being an ignorant Brit, I don’t about this Cheney phenomenon. Should I learn to hate him?

I guess you could learn it if you have to. But for many, it’s just instinct.

And I apologize for my role in sidetracking this thread down to the corral where that dead horse we like to beat is kept. So lemme start over. Again, welcome to the fucking boards.

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/94 "2006-03-17T16:59:49Z")

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> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> I guess you could learn it if you have to. But for many, it’s just instinct.
> 
> And I apologize for my role in sidetracking this thread down to the corral where that dead horse we like to beat is kept. So lemme start over. Again, welcome to the fucking boards.

No apologies needed. And fucking thank you for your fucking welcome. (What have I started? I’m going to rot in hell - I just know it).

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/95 "2006-03-17T23:15:05Z")

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> [@NineToTheSky](#):
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> This has been a fun learning curve. As far as I can see, my post hasn’t fought any ignorance; was completely pointless;

Keep it up and you’re going to fit right in. This is true of the majority of posts, especially in the Pit. The threads overall are usually informative and relevent, but the posts within can be often as you’ve described your to be.

Donkey punching goat feltcher. (If you don’t know, don’t look it up. You’re better off) 🙂

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/96 "2006-03-17T23:58:35Z")

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> [@NineToTheSky](#):
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> I’m going to rot in hell - I just know it.

No, you’re not twee enough to be a mod.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2006, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/97 "2006-03-18T00:14:10Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> You guys are missing the critical point here - do we have to put that stupid R in a circle after the Straight Dope now? Cause I don’t know how to do that, and I don’t want to, anyway.

I’m not gonna get ensnared with the Dead Horse Brigade, but this one I _can_ answer – make sure your NumLock key is on, hold down your Alt key, and hit 0174. Then code it for superscript, and voilà! You can now join the cognoscenti who know how to properly write the Straight Dope[sup]®[/sup]!

And welcome to the fucking boards, **NineToTheSky**!

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2006, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/98 "2006-03-18T10:31:52Z")

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> [@rayh](#):
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> No, you’re not twee enough to be a mod.

I can learn twee. Then I can be in control. You’ll all be my minions (or onions - who cares), my slaves. I will keep you all in eternal bondage (come to me Evil Captor), my wrath will know no bounds and I will develop a fiendish braying laugh that will \*terrify \* you all.

Then I’ll go home for tea.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2006, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/99 "2006-03-18T16:52:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> can learn twee. Then I can be in control.

I’m not sure that a person who believes that one may exercise control while being twee has the requisite language skills to actually attract minions (much less to impose minionhood on others).  
“_Terrifying_”? Perhaps you are a bit twee.

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**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/permission-to-swear/348475/100 "2006-03-18T17:09:27Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> I’m not sure that a person who believes that one may exercise control while being twee has the requisite language skills to actually attract minions (much less to impose minionhood on others).  
> “_Terrifying_”? Perhaps you are a bit twee.

Look, I just said I could \*learn \*it. I may not be quite there yet, but we all have to start somewhere. Even you admit that terrifying exhibits tweeness.

Show me how, and I will follow you everywhere. I’ll be your shadow. You’ll get to like me - honest.

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