# Perry, not quite out but... **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 2, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740 "2015-09-02T20:24:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/1 "2015-09-02T20:24:44Z")
[Former Adviser Says Rick Perry’s Campaign In New Hampshire Has Folded](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rick-perry-campaign-trouble_55e73e40e4b0aec9f3559834?utm_hp_ref=politics) > [@HuffPo](#): > > Rick Perry’s presidential campaign has lost its entire staff in New Hampshire, according to a former top adviser there to the former governor. > > “There is no staff in New Hampshire,” Mike Dennehy said Wednesday, a day after word spread that one of Perry’s remaining staffers in the Granite State had defected to Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s campaign. I don’t remember if I predicted Perry would be the first clown to drop out, but I did gleefully comment a few months ago about Perry’s laughably dismal chances at the Republican nomination. The only question in my mind at this point regarding Perry’s inevitable departure from the field is if Jindal will beat him to the punch. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/2 "2015-09-02T21:14:59Z")
Didn’t he stop paying everybody about a month ago? There’s a limited period that people will hang on waiting for the campaign to turn the corner. After that, they’ll start looking around for someone who can sign a paycheck. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/3 "2015-09-09T19:20:19Z")
Now his South Carolina campaign is shut down completely. He’s got to be the first one to drop out. > **[Perry Shuts Down Campaign in South Carolina](https://politicalwire.com/2015/09/09/perry-shuts-down-campaign-in-south-carolina/)** > > Rick Perry has shuttered his South Carolina campaign headquarters, CNN reports."This comes almost a month after the Perry campaign announced that it would no longer be paying staff across the country." ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/4 "2015-09-09T20:08:11Z")
Is there any point at which he literally has to drop out? What’s to stop him from insisting “yeah, I’m running, really!” right up to the date of the convention? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/5 "2015-09-09T21:01:04Z")
I’m sort of surprised. You’d think with all the money sloshing around Texas, and Perry’s long tenure as governor there, that he’d be able to find some people willing to fund him even if his actual candidacy was doomed. Anyhoo, sort of interesting how far his star has fallen. There was a huge effort to draft him as an anti-Romney last cycle, with a lot of grassroots funding and enthusiasm. That seemed to evaporate almost immediately after his debate flub, and appears to be totally dead this cycle. > [@Chronos](#): > > Is there any point at which he literally has to drop out? What’s to stop him from insisting “yeah, I’m running, really!” right up to the date of the convention? I’m pretty sure there’s no formal bar to holding on till the end. Other lost-cause candidates have “suspended” their campaigns so as to hold on to their delegates to use as a bargaining chip at the Convention. Though it takes money to pay people to collect signatures to get on a ballot. Presumably he’s already done this in Iowa/NH/NC, but probably not for the later states. So while he could say he’s still running, it’d be a pretty thin fiction if he isn’t even on the ballot in most of the primaries. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/6 "2015-09-09T21:54:20Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Is there any point at which he literally has to drop out? What’s to stop him from insisting “yeah, I’m running, really!” right up to the date of the convention? Dropping out voluntarily looks better than trying to stay in and getting no votes because your campaign has collapsed. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/7 "2015-09-10T00:43:35Z")
OK, so the polls and the debate were a total defeat, like the Alamo. But you do remember what happened after that, right! You _do_ remember! ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/8 "2015-09-10T09:32:48Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > OK, so the polls and the debate were a total defeat, like the Alamo. But you do remember what happened after that, right! You _do_ remember! The massacre at Goliad! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/9 "2015-09-10T09:47:02Z")
Clearly [Doofenshmirtz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Heinz_Doofenshmirtz) got his Perrys confused, and zapped the candidate instead of the platypus with his NoFundinator. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/10 "2015-09-11T21:26:50Z")
[He’s out.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/11/politics/rick-perry-2016-campaign-suspended/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/11 "2015-09-11T21:35:17Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > [He’s out.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/11/politics/rick-perry-2016-campaign-suspended/index.html) One down, fifteen left. I honestly don’t understand how he felt that his mediocre 2012 experience could translate into a good shot at the nomination this time. But then, I feel the same about such as Huckabee and Santorum, for example. I guess it just must be ego. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/12 "2015-09-11T21:36:01Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > [He’s out.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/11/politics/rick-perry-2016-campaign-suspended/index.html) Yep. [Rick Perry Ends His 2016 Presidential Campaign](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rick-perry-ends-presidential-campaign_55f3427ee4b063ecbfa46be7) [Quote=HuffPo] Former Texas Governor Rick Perry announced Friday he is ending his presidential campaign. Perry announced the end of his campaign at the Eagle Forum – an event founded by conservative activist Phyllis Schlafly – in St. Louis, Missouri. [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/13 "2015-09-11T21:40:33Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > One down, fifteen left. > > I honestly don’t understand how he felt that his mediocre 2012 experience could translate into a good shot at the nomination this time. But then, I feel the same about such as Huckabee and Santorum, for example. I guess it just must be ego. I’ll say next out will be either Gilmore or Pataki, only because Jindal is too delusional to realize he’s done. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/14 "2015-09-11T21:42:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Frank V > One down, fifteen left. > > I honestly don’t understand how he felt that his mediocre 2012 experience could translate into a good shot at the nomination this time. But then, I feel the same about such as Huckabee and Santorum, for example. I guess it just must be ego. Santorum came in second. So, not mediocre by all standards. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/15 "2015-09-11T21:42:49Z")
He’s polling really low, but not much better or worse than like 7 other people. Why was his the first campaign to implode? Are guys like Gilmore, Jindal, and Graham paying staffers in those early caucus states? Or did Perry lose more money because he spent more and expected more? ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/16 "2015-09-11T21:46:52Z")
… and he drops [out.](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rick-perry-drops-2016-presidential-race/story?id=33696891) I wonder why others (Santorum, Jindal, Graham etc) don’t. There is no point, really, to their campaigns. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/17 "2015-09-11T21:49:09Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > … and he drops [out.](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rick-perry-drops-2016-presidential-race/story?id=33696891) I wonder why others (Santorum, Jindal, Graham etc) don’t. There is no point, really, to their campaigns. As usual, we’re already way ahead of you **Terr**. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/18 "2015-09-11T21:55:03Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Santorum came in second. So, not mediocre by all standards. _shrug_ He quit about halfway through the primaries, and Gingrich lasted longer. He may have been second in assigned delegates, but he still got his ass kicked. I’ll agree that it depends on the point of the viewer, but I’m convinced that the Republican nominee next year will be Bush or Kasich, not one of the recycled clowns from last time. ---
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/19 "2015-09-11T21:59:20Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > I’ll say next out will be either Gilmore or Pataki, only because Jindal is too delusional to realize he’s done. Gilmore and Pataki have been delusional from the beginning. Otherwise they wouldn’t have gotten into the race. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740/20 "2015-09-11T22:02:53Z")
[Called it.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18555503&postcount=7)😉 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perry-not-quite-out-but/729740.md?page=2)