# Person of Interest: Shaw - Yea or Nay? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 23, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046 "2013-10-23T18:13:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/1 "2013-10-23T18:13:48Z")
For those of you who watch _Person of Interest_, do you care much for the new character, Shaw? I really don’t. To be perfectly blunt, she’s just too annoying to be likeable at all. Given her personality and her tendency to want to solve every single problem by shooting someone, I’m expecting that she’ll eventually get herself killed. ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/2 "2013-10-23T18:18:54Z")
But she loves Bear. She’s mellowing and I think she’s there to show the growth that Reece has been through. He wasn’t a whole lot different than she was in the pre show flashbacks but look at him now! He has relationships with people that don’t involve threats and violence. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/3 "2013-10-23T18:19:43Z")
I do like her; I like her relationship with Finch. As we discovered last night, she isn’t as cold as she makes herself out to be. I don’t like that she’s taking the spotlight off of John, though - he’s my favourite character on the show. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/4 "2013-10-23T18:33:48Z")
Both her and Carter are progressing-btw,did you see Carter’s masterplay in the bar? Has she been taking Reese lessons or what? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/5 "2013-10-23T18:38:26Z")
Carter was awesome. She is indeed playing by different rules now. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/6 "2013-10-23T19:01:26Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > For those of you who watch _Person of Interest_, do you care much for the new character, Shaw? I really don’t. To be perfectly blunt, she’s just too annoying to be likeable at all. > > Given her personality and her tendency to want to solve every single problem by shooting someone, I’m expecting that she’ll eventually get herself killed. Like any red-blooded heterosexual male, I like Sarah Shahi - but seriously, they seem to have just shoe-horned her character in doing stuff that John managed solo before, and I’d rather the screen time went to the Root/Amy Acker character. Speaking of which, my suspicion is we’re being prepped for a spin-off with Root and Shaw doing what Howard and John do, except for The Machine and its agenda. This season will be Howard reforming Shaw while his baby straightens out Root, and away we go. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/7 "2013-10-23T19:30:42Z")
I like her. She’s raw and cold-blooded. They’ve taken some of the edge off John because his character has developed beyond the blood-thirstiness, and Shaw is taking up the slack. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/8 "2013-10-23T19:46:51Z")
> [@Moonlitherial](#): > > … I think she’s there to show the growth that Reece has been through. He wasn’t a whole lot different than she was in the pre show flashbacks but look at him now! He has relationships with people that don’t involve threats and violence. Yeah, this. Audiences do enjoy the ‘ice-cold badass character’ storylines, but when it’s a character we’ve gotten to know, the same old Ice-Cold Badass stuff gets old (and harder to reconcile with our wishes to see an empathetic protagonist). Also, as mentioned in this thread: yes, Carter-in-the-bar was an enjoyable sequence. (You knew _something_ was going to happen when the ‘rookie’ started spouting misogyny.) Also also, to another poster up there: Harold, not Howard. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/9 "2013-10-23T20:11:05Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > Speaking of which, my suspicion is we’re being prepped for a spin-off with Root and Shaw doing what Howard and John do, except for The Machine and its agenda. This season will be Howard reforming Shaw while his baby straightens out Root, and away we go. My theory is that the Machine has a “suicide mission” planned for Root. There’s something it needs done, but it has calculated that whoever does the job probably will not survive. So it’s going to send Root, because it knows she’s a total nutcase and is essentially expendable. This will open up all sorts of disturbing questions about what the Machine is becoming… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/10 "2013-10-23T20:35:33Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > Like any red-blooded heterosexual male, I like Sarah Shahi - but seriously, they seem to have just shoe-horned her character in doing stuff that John managed solo before, and I’d rather the screen time went to the Root/Amy Acker character. > > Speaking of which, my suspicion is we’re being prepped for a spin-off with Root and Shaw doing what Howard and John do, except for The Machine and its agenda. This season will be Howard reforming Shaw while his baby straightens out Root, and away we go. POI: Los Angeles ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/11 "2013-10-23T20:45:17Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/12 "2013-10-23T22:39:20Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > I like her. She’s raw and cold-blooded. They’ve taken some of the edge off John because his character has developed beyond the blood-thirstiness, and Shaw is taking up the slack. I’m not sure John was ever blood-thirsty - I recall from the first episode something along the lines of, “I’m very good at killing, but I don’t like it much.” > [@NoClueBoy](#): > > POI: Los Angeles Oy vey. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/13 "2013-10-23T22:52:19Z")
I don’t watch PoI, but since they hired Sarah Shahi, that meant _Chicago Fire_ had to suddenly write her character out, which was awkward. Not that her character wasn’t a little awkward. Not that _Chicago Fire_ doesn’t \*live \*for awkward. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2013, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/14 "2013-10-23T23:41:59Z")
I keep hoping she’ll leave. The character is one-note, and not nearly as amusing as Fiona on _Burn Notice_. ---
**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/15 "2013-10-24T00:25:14Z")
I don’t care much for Shaw, and I actively loathe Amy Acker/Root. I prefer the focus to be on John, Harold, Carter, and Fusco, but I suppose the show has to evolve. More John!!! More Carter!!! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/16 "2013-10-24T01:06:31Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > POI: Los Angeles Or you could make it POI: Hawaii. Which makes a certain kind of gustatory sense. Plus, you’d get some Five-O style fanservice. Like Shaw in a bikini simultaneously riding a long board and shooting people. Man, this stuff writes itself, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/17 "2013-10-24T02:07:46Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > POI: Los Angeles The thing is, we’ve seen that the machine is everywhere. How can Harold be so driven to chase the numbers in New York, and uncaring about everywhere else? I’d imagine the most numbers would be generated by the largest cities - more surveillance, more people, more data to work with - but it seems like there should be a POI: Chicago, POI:LA, maybe POI: London. For terrorist work, it watched Shaw all over the world. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/18 "2013-10-24T03:41:31Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > The thing is, we’ve seen that the machine is everywhere. How can Harold be so driven to chase the numbers in New York, and uncaring about everywhere else? I’d imagine the most numbers would be generated by the largest cities - more surveillance, more people, more data to work with - but it seems like there should be a POI: Chicago, POI:LA, maybe POI: London. For terrorist work, it watched Shaw all over the world. How do we know the Machine isn’t already running teams all over the world? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/19 "2013-10-24T06:05:16Z")
> [@Tapiotar](#): > > I don’t care much for Shaw, and I actively loathe Amy Acker/Root. I prefer the focus to be on John, Harold, Carter, and Fusco, but I suppose the show has to evolve. More John!!! More Carter!!! Agreed! John has always been awesome, and Carter is getting more awesome by the minute. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046/20 "2013-10-24T16:41:18Z")
> [@Tapiotar](#): > > I don’t care much for Shaw, and I actively loathe Amy Acker/Root. I prefer the focus to be on John, Harold, Carter, and Fusco, but I suppose the show has to evolve. More John!!! More Carter!!! I totally agree. The sooner they kill Root, the happier I’ll be. She’s proven time & time again that she’s a total psycho whackjob, and I really can’t see her ever becoming a “good guy,” altho she might play along with them for a while if it served her purposes. As for Shaw, the difference between her and John is that John isn’t sociopathic, just hardened. From last week’s episode, we know that Shaw has always been a sociopath. (No, the car accident didn’t make her one. It just showed that she was one, since he didn’t have anything like a normal reaction to the news that her father had just died.) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/person-of-interest-shaw-yea-or-nay/672046.md?page=2)