Or mile-high stacks of People and claim that the First Amendment is “severely limited”, apparently. Shrug I’m okay with us having different views on this, especially since I’m confident that yours is an outlier. If I thought a significant number of people held your view, I might feel inclined to spend more time dispelling it, but I’m confident that most people who read this thread will look at your opinion expressed here and conclude you are being weirdly stubborn about something that is obvious to them.
Hopelessly devoted to yooouuuu …
Emphasis on the hopeless part 
We’re done here.
Sure. And I’m confident of the exact opposite of what you say. So what?
I don’t think anyone is doubting your word on what is or isn’t normal in RI. But telling someone that you’ll call the cops on them and that the cops will show up en masse and ‘do something!’ is what people took affront to.
The cops can come all they want, they can even try to question (most gun owners I know would have no problem answering simple questions). Where you run into that brick wall is that if said gun owner wanted to simply walk away , there isn’t anything the cop can or should do about it, unless he has a valid reason (per the law). Currently him simply carrying a rifle down the street isn’t sufficient of a valid reason.
I have posted, several times, what a person does and does not have to do during an encounter with police. Feel free to go back and reread.
If you are going to come back with childish nonsense about how the police will get a medal for shooting you dead if you try to exercise your rights, and the fact that some dimwit pulled a fake gun when confronted proves it, don’t bother.
Regards,
Shodan
Having an opinion is great!
Having a strong opinion even better.
Having an opinion based in a fantasy world, in the face of overwhelming information provided for you (by people on both sides of the aisle) is ignorant and everyone here would be derelict in their duties for not pointing it out to you. But they have.
So have your opinion, ignorant as it is. Hold fast to it!
Which is exactly why I would alert the proper authorities and let them determine what the correct course of action is. They may assess the situation and do nothing. That is fine with me. I would still call.
And again - that is why I would call the cops and let them make the determination on the proper course of action. I never said I expected them to arrest the person merely because they were carrying a rifle.
Also, I mentioned that multiple units would respond because most police around here ride solo, and I am pretty sure that no officer would want to respond alone to a scene where a gun is involved. I am fairly confident in that belief because last year we had to call the Providence PD about an incident involving someone in possession of a knife and three officers responded.
Do they or don’t they need to comply with the orders that the cop tells them are lawfully given? Yes, or no.
Please cite the post where anyone said anything about a medal.
How about a cite where someone was being given conflicting orders by different police, didn’t pull a gun, and got shot for it?
Nah, not much interesting in that conversation.
One last question - In your opinion, if you are openly carrying where it’s legal to openly carry, and a cop comes up to you and demands your gun, what should a person do?
Sure. My opinion allows me to mock people who think the ability to purchase an unlimited amount of guns is somehow “severely limited”. I think I’ll stick with it.
UltraVires - so what specific crime is it that you reasonably suspect has been, is being or is about to be committed and why? I’m not arguing that someone walking around with a rifle where it is far from the norm shouldn’t be looked at by the police. I don’t even agree with open carry, generally. But if that person says, “Its none of your business why I’m carrying this gun” the police can’t legally detain him, even briefly, without more reason. (This assumes that OC is legal.) In Terry the crime suspected by McFadden was a robbery and the suspicion was based pretty heavily on his experience. His observations went a bit beyond just two guys walking in front of a store. In the decision, the court did a better job articulating his suspicion than he did and I wonder is his articulation would be good enough today.
Wow, this thread.
For the record, as a person who intends to go his entire life never touching a gun and hopes never to lay eyes on one:
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Being allowed to buy infinite copies of Twilight: New Moon and no other books does not mean I have the unlimited ability to buy books. Thus if there is a single kind of gun or weapon that can’t be bought, there are indeed limitations on your right to bear arms. No bazookas? Limited. No tanks? Limited. No ICBMs? Limited. Let’s overthrow the country in protest.
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We all get that cops can’t lock you up for carrying a bazooka. Thanks for telling us for the fiftieth time. But that doesn’t mean the cops have to ignore you. They can hang out, buy a coffee, and sip it calmly and watch you as you case the post office. They don’t have to flee. And thus it makes perfect sense to call in some official backup if you see somebody who, seriously, is probably up to no good.
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I’m as proud of my ignorance of guns as you’re proud of your ignorance of children’s cartoons.
K9befriender - banning semi-autos does not leave you with bolt action only. I personally own a slide (pump) action deer rifle and friends have lever actions - a la The Rifleman. These weapons can be fired very quickly. Maybe a minor point but inaccuracies in your arguments don’t help any. I am not a gun nut. I used to hunt a bit and carried a side arm for 25 years a LEO and sometimes a long gun as a member of SWAT team. AR types where I used to hunt are not permitted - no semis. But I just watch some videos of “exterminators” shooting wild pigs in Texas. These animals are extremely destructive to crops and indigenous wildlife. This is one example of using ARs with large capacity magazines to hunt where they are necessary. The effectiveness of these hunts may be up for debate but not whether or not semi-autos are the tool for the job.
Now I get it. :rolleyes:
Tannerite is also a widely used approach - conserves ammo.
Probably more of a novelty than “widely used”, but that was … interesting.
ETA: I might have to file this away for the next time someone claims you can’t use explosive for hunting.
What do you get? That you have no idea what you are rolling your eyes at?
I work as a park ranger, part of the time at a park in downtown Providence. Being an urban park, we get a wide assortment of visitors. Last year, one of our regulars began harassing other visitors. One of our maintenance guys knew he had a knife in his possession since he dealt with him on a nearly daily basis. When we called the police for his removal, we let them know he had a knife. Three police officers responded rather than the one we usually get when someone needs to be escorted off the premises because they knew he had a weapon.
I didn’t bother telling the whole story in my last post since it was a bit of a tangent, but there you go. Due to my job, I actually have some experience working with the local police since we don’t have our own LEOs due to the size of the parks I work at and their urban location.
Look, in Open carry states, you see jerks walking around Walmart every single day with AR15s. Thus, no it is not “unusual”. It is normal. Google it, you can see many pictures of it. Would I think the guy was a jerk? Sure. Just like I would think the guy flying a CSA flag on his truck is a jerk. But I wouldnt call the police.
In CA, yes, I would wonder and be concerned unless it was a rural or wilderness area or a gun range was right there. It would be unusual. And mostly illegal also.
You can buy as many Bibles are you want, and stuff storage lockers with them, but you may not buy any other books.
Are you severely limited in Book buying?