# Personality seems to be a big choice in elections lately ... November 2016 picks anyone? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 14, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929 "2013-11-14T20:52:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![LC\_Strawhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@LC\_Strawhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LC_Strawhouse)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/41 "2013-11-16T22:31:14Z")
I’m calling it: Terry McAuliffe (D) vs. Jon Huntsman ® ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/42 "2013-11-16T23:19:38Z")
Hillary would be the 2nd oldest President (behind Reagan) elected to a first term. To get elected she’d have to fight a propaganda machine that would have her killing Ambassador Stevens personally with her bare teeth and sharpened fingers. I know the pundits think she’s almost a sure thing, but I’m not buying it. Chris Christie will be the 45th President of the United States. You heard it here first. > [@](#): > > Rubio’s part of the class that will have to run in 2016. If he gets the nomination for President and loses he’s out of office, potentially forever. He’s awful young for that. Joe Lieberman (now of the American Enterprise Institute :smack: ) ran for both Vice Pres. and Senator in 2000. Couldn’t Rubio do something similar? He wouldn’t even risk (as Lieberman did) winning both and forfeiting the Senate seat to the opposite party. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/43 "2013-11-16T23:19:40Z")
[Paul Ryan set to make first Iowa appearance since 2012 race](http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/paul-ryan-set-to-make-first-iowa-appearance-since-2012-race-b99143613z1-232202491.html) _ **Paul Ryan hasn’t made a decision about running for president in 2016 but it’s a good bet he’s keeping his options open.** _ [More presidential chatter as Gov. Scott Walker visits Iowa](http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/208643141.html) When was the last time 2 candidates from the same party and state ran for POTUS in a primary? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/44 "2013-11-16T23:55:14Z")
The Republicans will need to move to the center to win the 2016 election. The Tea Party will not support this. Political infighting will be rampant throughout the Republican primary and they will likely end up with Mr. Christie, and the Tea Party will either stay home or put forth a third party candidate in the beginnings of a permanent split. Christie has a shot against Mrs. Clinton, but will have his hands full and will probably still lose. Anyone to the right of Chris Christie has little or no chance against Mrs. Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/45 "2013-11-16T23:58:33Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > To get elected she’d have to fight a propaganda machine that would have her killing Ambassador Stevens personally with her bare teeth and sharpened fingers. I don’t see this as much of an obstacle, considering that she already has experience dealing with a propaganda machine that had her murdering Vince Foster. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/46 "2013-11-17T00:05:26Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Chris Christie will be the 45th President of the United States. You heard it here first. … Nah. I’ve heard that prediction made in quite a few circles. William Hill, a betting site, has him at 10 to 1 behind HRC, Rubio, and Jeb Bush. Others put him above Bush but behind Rubio. Personally I’d handicap it as HRC vs Christie with HRC a slight favorite. But close. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/47 "2013-11-17T01:56:43Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > When was the last time 2 candidates from the same party and state ran for POTUS in a primary? 😕 1. You had Georgians Herman Cain and New Gingrich, Texans Ron Paul and Rick Parry, and Minnesotans Michele Bachmann and Tim Pawlenty. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/48 "2013-11-17T02:17:50Z")
It will be Hillary against Chris Cristie with a rightwing nutjob VP. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/49 "2013-11-17T11:35:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > 1. You had Georgians Herman Cain and New Gingrich … Maybe. He smelled just as bad as the Old Gingrich to me. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/50 "2013-11-17T13:29:08Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > I’m sticking with Jeb Bush … Marco Rubio for vice president would swing a lot of votes away from the democrats. The same democrats of all races poor, black, white, latino types that stood in long lines for hours to vote for President Obama could turn the tide for the Republican ticket. > > Who was it that said the rich pick who runs for office, but the poor decide which one will win? There’s that pesky Constitutional thing though. They’re both from the same state. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/51 "2013-11-17T13:34:48Z")
Here is a [chart](https://medium.com/the-nib/af3db2516137)showing the GOP’s frontrunners for 2016. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/52 "2013-11-17T20:13:32Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **Zakalwe** : > > There’s that pesky Constitutional thing though. They’re both from the same state. Not really much of an obstacle, as evidenced by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. I’m sure one of them could find some other state to be their official residence. Call Jeb a Texan, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/53 "2013-11-17T22:47:12Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Not really much of an obstacle, as evidenced by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. I’m sure one of them could find some other state to be their official residence. Call Jeb a Texan, maybe. Well given that Rubio is a current Senator from Florida, it ain’t him. And I think Jeb has lived here for quite a while with no other residence of record. It’s not the same as Cheney who, at least, HAD maintained the Wyoming residence for a number of years. Hell, if they were gonna do that, Jeb would have to be moving in the next 6 months to a year. Besides, Rubio ain’t playing second fiddle to nobody. When he runs for national office, it’ll be at the top of the ticket. ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/54 "2013-11-18T01:06:36Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Well given that Rubio is a current Senator from Florida, it ain’t him. And I think Jeb has lived here for quite a while with no other residence of record. It’s not the same as Cheney who, at least, HAD maintained the Wyoming residence for a number of years. Cheney lived in Texas. His house in Wyoming was a vacation home, and he only spent a few days per year there. Fundamentally the Constitution says that the Pres. and VP. can’t come from the same start, but there’s not much way to enforce it. While I doubt the Jeb/Rubio ticket will come into being, it won’t be because of that reason. ---
**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/55 "2013-11-18T03:41:09Z")
> [@ITR\_champion](#): > > Cheney lived in Texas. His house in Wyoming was a vacation home, and he only spent a few days per year there. > > Fundamentally the Constitution says that the Pres. and VP. can’t come from the same start, but there’s not much way to enforce it. While I doubt the Jeb/Rubio ticket will come into being, it won’t be because of that reason. The 12th amendment states that each elector must cast one of their two votes for a candidate from a state other than their home state. There’s no prohibition against a President and Vice President from the same state being elected or serving. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/56 "2013-11-18T14:04:27Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Joe Lieberman (now of the American Enterprise Institute :smack: ) ran for both Vice Pres. and Senator in 2000. Couldn’t Rubio do something similar? He wouldn’t even risk (as Lieberman did) winning both and forfeiting the Senate seat to the opposite party. It’s certainly possible to do so, though there are some states that limit it based on filing deadlines. But Lieberman doing it isn’t the same as Rubio doing it. In CT no ones wants to go head to head with Lieberman. In FLA - with Rubio being a rookie - if he pulls that he’ll face significant challenges at the Senate primary level AND at the Presidential level. The Republican debates alone will feature about a billion ‘Senator Doesn’t-Commit’ style jokes. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/57 "2013-11-18T14:19:35Z")
> [@Algorithm](#): > > The 12th amendment states that each elector must cast one of their two votes for a candidate from a state other than their home state. There’s no prohibition against a President and Vice President from the same state being elected or serving. Yes, but when the state is Florida (or Texas), it’s enough to swing the outcome of the Vice Presidential election. Or the Presidential election, if the electors were really stupid. Bear in mind that most states now have faithless elector legislation, which means the electors must vote for the candidates they are pledged to - which means you can’t have a _ticket_ in that state with two homegrown candidates. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/58 "2013-11-19T00:41:18Z")
> [@Mr\_Quatro](#): > > Jeb Bush is my pick: [http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2145994,00.html](http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2145994,00.html) I for one am gratified to know his height and the names of his spawn. No, wait, I don’t care. This “personality” stuff is what you sell when you can’t win on anything relevant. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929/59 "2013-11-26T21:31:14Z")
How many people had Jimmy Carter as a frontrunner in 1973, or Obama in 2005? In fact, I was convinced in 2005 that Obama would be the Democrat’s VP candidate…in 2012. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personality-seems-to-be-a-big-choice-in-elections-lately-november-2016-picks-anyone/673929.md?page=2)