# Perversion Scale - What do you think is the most perverted act...

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 6, 2010, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516 "2010-03-06T08:50:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![nilum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ed8c4c/32.png) [@nilum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nilum)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/1 "2010-03-06T08:50:26Z")

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One of my other threads got me thinking as to what perversion actually was, and if there was some measure as to how perverted someone is.

I decided to take a stab at creating a scale of perversion from 0 to 10. 10 being the most perverted and 0 being not perverted at all.

1. Dead. Either by having a non-functioning libido or literally dead.
2. Asexual - being aroused by yourself and only masturbating.
3. Any sexual orientation towards the same or opposite sexes/Sodomy
4. Voyeurism/Viewing Pornography
5. Exhibitionism/Making Pornography
6. BDSM/Simulated or Consensual Torture or Rape /Vampirism
7. Bukkake/Scat/Vomit
8. Groping/Flashing
9. Real Rape/Real Torture
10. Seeking sex from children.
11. Pleasure from murder.

Note:  
This is based on practices, and not what porn you watch. Though I suppose it would be a similar list.

I don’t think there is a specific order in which we actually become fascinated with a certain fetish. You might get into Scat before you get into BDSM :\

I’m sure there are some niche fetishes I forgot.

What would your list look like?

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**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/2 "2010-03-06T09:00:13Z")

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You left out bestiality.

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**Author:** ![nilum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ed8c4c/32.png) [@nilum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nilum)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/3 "2010-03-06T09:39:32Z")

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> [@fuzzypickles](#):
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> You left out bestiality.

Umm.. don’t know where I would put it honestly…

Wouldn’t you consider that an orientation… jk

I dunno. Maybe I would put it above scat.

Pretty much everything above BDSM I don’t think I could ever get into.

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**Author:** ![unclviny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e274bd/32.png) [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/4 "2010-03-06T09:52:21Z")

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So I’m like a 2 or a 2.5, I’m even boring by made-up standards.

Unclviny

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**Author:** ![palacheck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a88e57/32.png) [@palacheck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/palacheck)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/5 "2010-03-06T11:18:21Z")

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Pretty solid ranking imo. But which is more perverted: shitting on someone or being shat on? Ejaculating on someone or being ejaculated on? Barfing on someone or getting barfed on? It’s the little details that are going to cause problems with your whole ranking system.

Should the guy that jerks off while licking a pair of hiking boots look down on the dude that jerks off while drinking blood?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/6 "2010-03-06T13:14:58Z")

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Are you seriously limiting this to 10? If I had the time I could get it into triple digits.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/7 "2010-03-06T13:21:09Z")

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Where is voting Republican?

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**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/8 "2010-03-06T14:01:48Z")

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Call me strange, but I think 9 and 10 should be switched.

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**Author:** ![nilum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ed8c4c/32.png) [@nilum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nilum)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/9 "2010-03-06T14:15:03Z")

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> [@Electric\_Warrior](#):
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> Call me strange, but I think 9 and 10 should be switched.

Well… maybe I could revise it a bit.

1. Dead. Either by having a non-functioning libido or literally dead.
2. Asexual - being aroused by yourself and only masturbating.
3. Any sexual orientation towards the same or opposite sexes/Sodomy
4. Voyeurism/Viewing Pornography
5. Exhibitionism/Making Pornography
6. BDSM/Simulated Rape/Consensual Torture/Vampirism
7. Bukkake/Scat/Vomit
8. Bestiality/Incest/Necrophilia
9. Groping/Flashing
10. Real Rape/Real Torture
11. Murdering for Pleasure/Pedophilia.

I guess I originally put murder over pedophilia because I remember discussing this with people at work and we all concluded we’d rather someone molest our children than kill them, but we all agreed that in the end the criminal who did it would be dead by our own hands.

I guess really there both equally horrible so they can share the 10 spot.

Feel free to make your own lists… I’m sure you guys know of stuff I’ve never heard of.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/10 "2010-03-06T14:21:15Z")

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> [@nilum](#):
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> I guess I originally put murder over pedophilia because I remember discussing this with people at work and we all concluded we’d rather someone molest our children than kill them, but we all agreed that in the end the criminal who did it would be dead by our own hands.

:dubious: That’s quite a cheery workplace conversation.

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**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/11 "2010-03-06T17:40:39Z")

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> [@nilum](#):
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> 1. Bestiality/Incest/Necrophilia
> 2. Groping/Flashing

Really? Flashing is worse than necrophelia? :dubious: So, those young women in New Orleans flashing their tits for beads are worse than necropheliacs?

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/12 "2010-03-06T18:04:22Z")

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There is an 11. There were those two men from Germany who hooked up on a message board for one of them to get killed and eaten by the other for sexual pleasure. They met and fried up and ate the doomed partner’s penis after it was cut off before the chef had to say goodbye to his new friend and do the always unthankful and messy job of butchering enough meat for weeks worth of lunches. It caused a problem in the German legal system because it wasn’t completely clear what was done was illegal at first. It was a consensual killing. Oddly enough, one of our fellow Dopers (I forget who), knew the person that got eaten fairly well as a consultant and said he was a very smart and seemingly normal person.

> **[Victim of cannibal agreed to be eaten](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/dec/04/germany.lukeharding)**
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> In one of the most extraordinary trials in German criminal history, a self-confessed cannibal admitted that he had met a Berlin engineer after advertising on the internet, and had chopped him up and eaten him.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/13 "2010-03-06T18:33:53Z")

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[Spinal Tap]  
This one goes to 11!  
[/ST]

I agree with **Cerowyn**. Flashing is worse than necrophilia?

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/14 "2010-03-06T19:24:53Z")

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Groping and flashing really worse than bestiality, scat, incest and necrophilia? really? i would have put that under voyeurism.

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/15 "2010-03-06T19:49:03Z")

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And I would put sodomy at a 3 or 4. That’s the problem with ranking perversions- one man’s perversion is another’s no-big-deal.

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**Author:** ![Blut\_Aus\_Nord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Blut\_Aus\_Nord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blut_Aus_Nord)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/16 "2010-03-06T19:56:50Z")

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I don’t think incest fits in with bestiality and necrophilia, unless it’s like uncle and niece or something awful.

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/17 "2010-03-06T19:58:26Z")

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> [@Chakra Nadmara](#):
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> I don’t think incest fits in with bestiality and necrophilia, unless it’s like uncle and niece or something awful.

I think incest fits in just fine with bestiality and necrophilia.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
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Check out this map about [The lands of human sexuality](http://www.humansexmap.com/), then re-examine the scale.

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**Author:** ![nilum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ed8c4c/32.png) [@nilum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nilum)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/19 "2010-03-06T22:17:55Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Groping and flashing really worse than bestiality, scat, incest and necrophilia? really? i would have put that under voyeurism.

At mardis gras when women flash it’s because they know the people around them aren’t going to be offended.

With necrophilia no one gets hurt… well assuming no one finds out. While with groping and flashing… it can be a traumatizing and humiliating experience.

I guess I should change it to trench coat flasher.

I guess on the same coin forced exposure would be on there.

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As far a incest. Again it doesn’t guarantee one partner involved will be hurt, though it’s possible, but then that is just rape/molestation which falls into the other categories.

1. Dead. Either by having a non-functioning libido or literally dead.
2. Asexual - being aroused by yourself and only masturbating.
3. Any sexual orientation towards the same or opposite sexes/Sodomy
4. Voyeurism/Viewing Pornography
5. Exhibitionism/Making Pornography
6. BDSM/Simulated Rape/Consensual Torture/Vampirism
7. Bukkake/Scat/Vomit
8. Bestiality/Incest/Necrophilia
9. Molestation/Groping/Forced Exposure/Trench Coat Flashing
10. Real Rape/Real Torture
11. Murdering for Pleasure/Pedophilia

> [@](#):
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> There is an 11. There were those two men from Germany who hooked up on a message board for one of them to get killed and eaten by the other for sexual pleasure. They met and fried up and ate the doomed partner’s penis after it was cut off before the chef had to say goodbye to his new friend and do the always unthankful and messy job of butchering enough meat for weeks worth of lunches. It caused a problem in the German legal system because it wasn’t completely clear what was done was illegal at first. It was a consensual killing. Oddly enough, one of our fellow Dopers (I forget who), knew the person that got eaten fairly well as a consultant and said he was a very smart and seemingly normal person.

Well I think it comes down to Murdering for Pleasure. What about Cannibalism though, where would you put that in the list. Assuming it’s not done out of Necessity.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perversion-scale-what-do-you-think-is-the-most-perverted-act/531516/20 "2010-03-07T01:33:43Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Check out this map about [The lands of human sexuality](http://www.humansexmap.com/), then re-examine the scale.

Wow, thanks for that; I’m surprised I’ve never seen it before. And yes, I’m going through it with . . . done that . . . done that . . . done that . . . .

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