# Perverts in cartoons

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 20, 2004, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696 "2004-08-20T08:16:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/21 "2004-08-20T20:00:55Z")

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“Dirty Duck” from the old National Lampoon. A #1 top level pervert if there ever was one. (I recently saw that Playboy has been running the strip. Boy, am I out of synch with that part of the world or what.)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/22 "2004-08-20T20:14:47Z")

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> [@audiobottle](#):
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> I may have dreamed this (and god knows what that means about my subconscious), but I swear on an episode of Family Guy Peter mentions something about the time he saved his friends from some guys. Then it flashes back to him holding a sword and cutting down a guy while the three other buddies are bent over a table with the gags in their mouths. Then it goes back and Peter says something to the effect of, “It’s a shame I got there too late though.” I think this was the episode where Peter tries to hunt down the man eating fish.

You’re not imagining it. I think the line was “too bad I got there after the sodomy.”

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/23 "2004-08-20T20:15:45Z")

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I seem to recall, two or three years ago, maybe? that **The Family Circus** ran a Sunday strip where a nicely dressed, middle-aged man asked Dolly for directions. Dolly thought about it for a moment, replied that she wan’t allowed to talk to strangers and went into the house.

The last panel had the police in some other part of town arresting the man, and one officer calling in that, “they had caught that molester that they had been looking for”.

Pretty serious stuff for **Circus**.

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**Author:** ![audiobottle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@audiobottle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audiobottle)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/24 "2004-08-20T20:19:00Z")

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Huh, I thought he might have said something about sodomy, but then I thought that they wouldn’t go that far. Of course, it’s Family Guy, and they’ve gone much further, so I should have known better.  
Of course, there’s also [Dennis the Menace](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=272064).

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/25 "2004-08-20T22:02:00Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> I seem to recall, two or three years ago, maybe? that **The Family Circus** ran a Sunday strip where a nicely dressed, middle-aged man asked Dolly for directions. Dolly thought about it for a moment, replied that she wan’t allowed to talk to strangers and went into the house.
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> The last panel had the police in some other part of town arresting the man, and one officer calling in that, “they had caught that molester that they had been looking for”.
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> Pretty serious stuff for **Circus**.

Man, I thought I was the only person who remembered that comic. Except I remember it being Jeffy, not Dolly. Still, though… ew.

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/26 "2004-08-20T22:12:50Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> At least Quagmire’s got social skills.
> 
> Moe Szyslak surrounds himself with barflies, buys sex, and lusts secretly after Marge. Come to think of it that whole bar’s got unwholesome tendencies. Lenny and Carl aren’t exactly boy scouts. But Barney – he’s 99.7% pure innocence, that one. Except for the boozing.

Well, Lenny and Carl seem to only have the hots for each other.

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/27 "2004-08-20T23:35:41Z")

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Let’s not forget Eugene and Rusty.

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**Author:** ![RandomLetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8edcca/32.png) [@RandomLetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandomLetters)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/28 "2004-08-21T01:28:37Z")

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I just finished rewatching Azumanga Diaoh, and you gotta love Kimura, the classics teacher. He is a pevert, but at least he is honest about it - during class, one of his students asked why he became a teacher - the response? “I like to look at High School Girls.”

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/29 "2004-08-21T01:35:01Z")

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_Hustler_ used to feature a one-panel cartoon – don’t know whether it still runs – about the degenerate adventures of “Chester the Molester.”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/30 "2004-08-21T01:42:00Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> The last panel had the police in some other part of town arresting the man, and one officer calling in that, “they had caught that molester that they had been looking for”.

Funniest FC I’ve ever heard of, for whatever that’s worth.

Moe also has the hots for Maude Flanders.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/31 "2004-08-21T01:49:18Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> _Hustler_ used to feature a one-panel cartoon – don’t know whether it still runs – about the degenerate adventures of “Chester the Molester.”

IIRC, the cartoonist got busted for sex with a minor.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/32 "2004-08-21T01:54:31Z")

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Chester the molester creator [B. Dwaine Tinsley](http://www.gapingmaw.com/60776/). Caution, that link isn’t work safe.

Seems like a case where neither art nor life needed to imitate each other.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/33 "2004-08-21T02:00:16Z")

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> [@adam yax](#):
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> IIRC, the cartoonist got busted for sex with a minor.

Whaddaya know! I Googled and found a cite! – [http://www.gapingmaw.com/60776/](http://www.gapingmaw.com/60776/). B. Dwaine Tinsley died of a heart attack in 2001, age 55.

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> “Chester was always standing there with a baseball bat, trying to trick a little girl behind a bush or a fence,” recalls Hustler cartoonist and colleague George Trosley. “I used to say to Dwaine, ‘What’s the baseball bat for? To knock her out so he could sexually abuse her?’ I always had a little problem with that. But Chester wasn’t Chester without his baseball bat.”
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> In 1984, Tinsley himself was accused of molesting his 13-year-old daughter Allison during a five-year period. Over three thousand of his cartoons were introduced in evidence at trial. Allison spun absurd, lurid scenarios between herself and her father, usually centering around oral or vaginal sex, and being forced to take birth control pills.
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> Defense attorney George Eskin artfully demonstrated Allison’s reputation was beyond unreliable. In addition to being a suicidal cocaine addict, she had already falsely accused a former boyfriend of rape. Her claims about Tinsley grew more outlandish throughout the case:
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> ESKIN  
> The court asked how many times all these events occurred, and you indicated, I thought I heard-
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> ALLISON  
> About at least 100,000
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> ESKIN  
> At least 100,000.
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> ALLISON  
> Yes.
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> ESKIN  
> Did you have math in school?
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> ALLISON  
> No, I hated math.
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> The prosecution team included courtroom groupie and children’s activist Dr. Judith Reisman, whose credits include helping to remove Playboy and Penthouse from 7-11 stores across the country - as well as regular condemnations of Mapplethorpe.
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> Regardless, it was the Hustler cartoons - not Allison or Reisman - which proved the most damaging. A jury found him guilty, and Tinsley was sentenced to six years in prison. The conviction was later overturned due to the district attorney’s extreme prejudice.
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> “I hope it was all a cartoon,” recalls Bruce David, Hustler cartoon editor. “Dwaine always said he was innocent. Of course, being the creator of Chester the Molester, when he went into the courtroom he was already convicted.”
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> In all, Dwaine served 23 months, regularly producing new artwork for Hustler from his jail cell.

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**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/34 "2004-08-21T03:15:33Z")

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The fact that so many people in this thread are struggling to find examples of perversion in cartoons shows me that anime isn’t nearly as popular as I thought 😃

I mean, Japan actually has a genre of cartoon called “pervert” (_hentai_ in Japanese). And even if we leave out all things tentacled, and just focus on the stuff they show after school, there are an awful lot of fourteen-year-old-girls dating guys in the twenties.

The examples from a mainstream anime that stick out most in my mind are from _Great Teacher Onizuka_. Onizuka almost leaps into bed a couple of times with his students, and one teacher in the first episode has had to keep doing his practicum over and over again because he keeps having sex with his female students.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/35 "2004-08-21T04:15:20Z")

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> [@Hamish](#):
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> I mean, Japan actually has a genre of cartoon called “pervert” (_hentai_ in Japanese). And even if we leave out all things tentacled, and just focus on the stuff they show after school, there are an awful lot of fourteen-year-old-girls dating guys in the twenties.
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> The examples from a mainstream anime that stick out most in my mind are from _Great Teacher Onizuka_. Onizuka almost leaps into bed a couple of times with his students, and one teacher in the first episode has had to keep doing his practicum over and over again because he keeps having sex with his female students.

Is that something that happens a lot in real life in Japan? Do they have different attitudes towards what we consider statutory rape? Or are these toons just catering to the sexual fantasies of teenage girls?

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**Author:** ![Tentacle\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@Tentacle\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tentacle_Monster)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/36 "2004-08-21T04:28:54Z")

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IIRC, the age of consent in Japan is 13.

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**Author:** ![Danalan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@Danalan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danalan)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/37 "2004-08-21T04:46:35Z")

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> [@Tentacle Monster](#):
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> IIRC, the age of consent in Japan is 13.

Not since 1999. Now it’s 18, 16 in some cases. See [www.ageofconsent.com](http://www.ageofconsent.com)

The Japanese do not, however, restrict sexual drawings involving children – due to freedom of expression laws.

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**Author:** ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/38 "2004-08-21T04:52:12Z")

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I remember one Spongebob episode showing him on the edge of his seat watching TV wide eyed. As Gary (his pet snail) comes in the room, Spongebob quickly flips channels and says nervously, “Oh Gary! What are you doing here! he he he.”

For a kids show, that’s pretty risque…and hillarious.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/39 "2004-08-21T05:04:32Z")

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> [@Askia](#):
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> At least Quagmire’s got social skills.
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> Moe Szyslak surrounds himself with barflies, buys sex, and lusts secretly after Marge. Come to think of it that whole bar’s got unwholesome tendencies. Lenny and Carl aren’t exactly boy scouts. But Barney – he’s 99.7% pure innocence, that one. Except for the boozing.

Don’t forget, Moe’s a registered sex offender…along with Patty and Selma, Freddy Quimby, and Jimmy the Scumbag.

“Aw, geez…there’s _always_ a line for these things!”

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**Author:** ![Duderdude2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@Duderdude2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duderdude2)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/perverts-in-cartoons/260696/40 "2004-08-21T07:20:24Z")

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> [@Danalan](#):
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> The Japanese do not, however, restrict sexual drawings involving children – due to freedom of expression laws.

Now does the US, if I recall correctly. Am I right?

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