# Pet peeve - - Stupid people **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 9, 2003, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pet-peeve-stupid-people/174125 "2003-05-09T15:22:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pet-peeve-stupid-people/174125/41 "2003-05-15T00:55:44Z")
[clerks] Whaddya mean there’s no ice? You mean I gotta drink this coffee **hot**? [/clerks] ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pet-peeve-stupid-people/174125/42 "2003-05-15T01:57:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mangetout \* > \*\*I think probably more annoying than any of that is people who don’t finish what they \*\* I couldn’t agree m ---
**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pet-peeve-stupid-people/174125/43 "2003-05-15T06:41:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lobsang \* > \*\*I couldn’t agree m \*\* Aha! You fools! Both of you have submitted to your own pet peeves! ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pet-peeve-stupid-people/174125/44 "2003-05-15T08:01:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by featherlou \* > \*\*Ah, but I _do_ live in a cold climate (Calgary, Alberta, Canada counts, right?). Sure on slippery days we leave extra space - some people do it as a matter of course, though, and I just don’t see the logic. There’s being cautious, and there’s being paranoid, careless, or just plain inept. \*\* I guess it depends on what you consider “too far”. You mentioned 50 feet as being too far. That’s what? 3 car lengths? I like to stay back at least far enough to see the tires and pavement (maybe 3/4’s a car length? I’m bad at math, all forms), and most other folks here do too, even in the summer months. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pet-peeve-stupid-people/174125/45 "2003-05-15T11:50:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \* > \*\*Ah, then you must not live in a cold climate. Up here most intelligent and POLITE people leave a pretty large space between them and the car in front of them. > … > A good rule of thumb is to make sure you can see their back tires and the pavement beneath them. > > Conversely, I HATE, HATE, HATE when people pull up too close behind me at a light. \*\* I don’t live in a cold climate, but I remember being taught the “back tires and a bit of pavement” rule in Driver’s Ed. You should never pull right up on someone’s back end. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pet-peeve-stupid-people/174125/46 "2003-05-16T14:21:45Z")
I agree completely; you _shouldn’t_ pull right up to someone’s car’s back end - I drive a standard, and when I roll back a couple of inches starting out on a steep hill, I don’t want to have to worry that I’m going to hit your car. (I do notice that at the next stop light, I have plenty 'o room back there, though :D) I stop so I can see pavement under the back tire of the car in front of me, and don’t see any reason to stop further back or closer in, except in slippery conditions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pet-peeve-stupid-people/174125.md?page=2)