# PETA eats their young. Or your young, whichever's handy...

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 17, 2003, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602 "2003-12-17T20:07:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/21 "2003-12-18T01:40:57Z")

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"I went to Karl Lagerfeld’s show, and Karl - _she had a problem_, because he showed fur in his collection, which drew protests outside of Bryant Park. PETA was protesting, going ‘Karl Lagerfeld is a murderer! Karl Lagerfeld is a murderer!’ I thought, 'Wouldn’t it be fabulous if Karl Lagerfeld actually _was_ a murderer? Like if he just lost it backstage at a trunk show in Milan and bludgeoned Elsa Klensch to death with a platform shoe? ‘_I hate dat blouse!!_’ "

“He would have to go to jail, where he would have to wear the orange jumpsuit… I would call Amnesty International myself.”

- Margaret Cho

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**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/22 "2003-12-18T01:57:19Z")

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Here is a link to the actual flyer in all its subtlety from PETA’s own website ([www.peta.org](http://www.peta.org)):

[http://www.furisdead.com/mommykills300.pdf](http://www.furisdead.com/mommykills300.pdf)

That is a little slow loading, you can also get a good idea of it here:

[http://www.furisdead.com/momfur.html](http://www.furisdead.com/momfur.html)

When I tried to check the links right now they didn’t go through but they are good, PETA must be experiencing high usage right now. I wonder why?

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**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/23 "2003-12-18T01:57:19Z")

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Here is a link to the actual flyer in all its subtlety from PETA’s own website ([www.peta.org](http://www.peta.org)):

[http://www.furisdead.com/mommykills300.pdf](http://www.furisdead.com/mommykills300.pdf)

That is a little slow loading, you can also get a good idea of it here:

[http://www.furisdead.com/momfur.html](http://www.furisdead.com/momfur.html)

When I tried to check the links right now they didn’t go through but they are good, PETA must be experiencing high usage right now. I wonder why?

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**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/24 "2003-12-18T02:10:49Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> I’m Happy to say I managed to make the little bitch toss her cookies right there.

I’m afraid I don’t condone creulty to animals or people, or sufficently developed fungi or monera. PETA members, however, are fair game. Bravo, sir.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/25 "2003-12-18T02:21:40Z")

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A little something for da’ ladies…

> [@](#):
>
> Do you have a puppy you take for walks or play ball with?  
> Or a kitty who likes to chase string? Everyone knows that  
> it’s fun to love and play with our animal friends.
> 
> But how would you feel if someone took away your  
> kitty or puppy, stomped on their head, and ripped  
> their skin off their bodies?
> 
> It would make you feel sad, wouldn’t  
> it? Why would anyone be so mean? But  
> there are terrible people who cause our  
> furry friends to die that way every day.  
> And guess what? One of those terrible  
> people is your mommy. Your mommy kills  
> animals! I bet you didn’t know that.
> 
> Lots of wonderful foxes, raccoons, and  
> other animals are kept by mean farmers who  
> squish them into cages so small that they  
> can hardly move. They never get to play or  
> swim or have fun. All they can do is cry—  
> just so your greedy mommy can have that  
> fur coat to show off in when she walks  
> the streets.
> 
> In the forest, nasty men in boots catch  
> animals with traps that have metal claws  
> that snap shut on animals’ legs. Ouch! Some  
> animals bite off their own paws to get away!  
> Mommy foxes do this because they want to  
> get back to their babies to feed them, but  
> they usually die anyway and their babies  
> slowly starve to death, scared and all alone.  
> Trapped animals who don’t escape from the  
> traps get stomped to death by the nasty  
> men. Ask your mommy how many dead  
> animals she killed to make her fur clothes.  
> Then tell her that you know she paid men  
> to hurt and kill the animals. Everyone knows.  
> And the sooner she stops wearing fur, the  
> sooner the animals will be safe. Until then,  
> keep your doggie or kitty friends away from  
> mommy—she’s an animal killer!

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/26 "2003-12-18T02:45:52Z")

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Okay, that does it, I’m enrolling whatever children I may ever have at Ted Nugent’s Summer Camp.

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/27 "2003-12-18T03:17:02Z")

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Well, the more of this crap I see, the more convinced I am of my original point:

PETA is no longer interested in presenting a rational viewpoint, or of convincing thinking human beings of anything.

Mainly what they seem to be aiming for here is an escalation of the “throw paint on people wearing fur,” tactic:

“If you wear fur, we will commit some sort of atrocity on you. It might be a small atrocity, like ruining your fur… or it could be something bigger, like terrifying your children.”

Terrorism. Like I said.

Jeez. Makes me sound like Bush.

NOW PETA IS MAKING ME SOUND LIKE BUSH!!!

Bastards…

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/28 "2003-12-18T03:19:54Z")

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…which brings me to yet another creepy-ass conclusion:

How long will it be before one of these people goes completely off his nut and simply shows up at the opera or whatever and just starts SHOOTING anyone wearing fur or leather or whatever?

We all thought it’d never happen to abortion providers, y’know.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/29 "2003-12-18T03:35:07Z")

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A “large bloody knife into the belly of a … rabbit”??? That’s no way to butcher a bunny. The potential of contamination from intestinal contents could render the meat unusable unless you clean out the abdominal cavity immediately.

Here’s a good reference for them: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1585742309/rmsg](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1585742309/rmsg)

And a bonus recipe:

RABBIT FRICASSEE  
1 rabbit, 1½ lbs dressed  
½ cup flour  
2 tsp salt  
Dash of pepper  
¼ tsp paprika  
¼ cup shortening  
1 tbsp finely chopped onion  
¾ cup water (or milk if desired)  
Clean rabbit, then wipe thoroughly with a damp cloth and pick off any hair.  
Rinse well with water.  
Dry.  
Cut into serving pieces, being careful to separate at the joints (never wash after cutting).  
Mix together the flour, salt, pepper and paprika in a clean paper bag and add a few pieces of rabbit at a time, shaking well until thoroughly dredged.  
Brown slowly in hot shortening over medium heat (takes about ½ hr).  
Add any remaining mixture from the bag, and the onion.  
Allow to saute then add ½ cup of the water.  
Cover and simmer gently until done  
Add remaining ¼ cup water as needed.  
Rabbit should be very tender when done (about 1 hr).  
If more gravy is desired, the amount of liquid and flour may be increased after the rabbit is thoroughly done and removed from the pan.  
3 to 4 servings.

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**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/30 "2003-12-18T03:39:18Z")

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I wonder about their thinking on this. How are they planning on giving this stuff to children without the parents being immediately aware? How likely is it that children will be in possession of this stuff long enough to even become upset? And finally, what better way to provoke instant confrontation? Perhaps they are crazy like a fox.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/31 "2003-12-18T04:10:05Z")

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First, I need to point out that I don’t condone fur; I think it’s a barbaric practice and don’t own any fur that isn’t obviously fake.

That said, any stranger who approached my child would be talking to the police. First Amendment or no, they do not have the right to accost children. Your right to swing ends at my nose and all.

Robin

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**Author:** ![myrnajean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@myrnajean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/myrnajean)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/32 "2003-12-18T04:26:16Z")

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I know this is horribly, horribly crass, but when I was a teenager I had this antique scarf made of minks, with the head and feet and everything.  
This woman came up to me and said “Oh My Gawd, are you wearing DEAD ANIMALS??!”  
I just deadpanned and said, “Why yes! You should see the one I have of little aborted fetuses”  
Her hair curled up and she walked away.  
Why strike one nerve when you can get a couple, I always say…

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/33 "2003-12-18T04:34:08Z")

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[quote[The fliers include a color drawing of a woman plunging a large bloody knife into the belly of a terrified rabbit. The fliers urge kids to ``ask your mommy how many dead animals she killed to make her fur clothes.[/quote]

How can you kill a dead animal? It’s already dead.

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**Author:** ![Testy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c37758/32.png) [@Testy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Testy)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/34 "2003-12-18T04:36:32Z")

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Thanks for the link on that, I _love_ the “psycho-mom” cover. I wish they would hand one of these things to my daughter, she’s 15 and would probably wet herself laughing at them.

Regards

Testy

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/35 "2003-12-18T04:45:29Z")

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How come these people never approach _me_? All I get are bible freaks and panhandlers and they’re no fun at all.

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/36 "2003-12-18T05:44:42Z")

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Holy shit, I just looked at that comic! Any PETA nut that gave that to the mother of my child and my (small) child would be in a world of hurt.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/37 "2003-12-18T07:03:19Z")

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Congrats, **Deagan**. I hope I can do that someday. These people are pathetic and disgusting. Fanatics suck, period, and those who think it’s OK to scare the shit out of kids to make their point are, I guess, at least admitting their arguments don’t stand up to real scrutiny by rational adults. I’m a vegetarian, and PETA has single-handedly put me off the animal rights bandwagon. There’s no room for sensible people who are content to say “animals should be treated humanely, but let’s use some common sense.”

In less complicated terms: fuck 'em. Fuck them hard. I have no kids, don’t wear fur, and don’t ever want to attend another _Nutcracker_ performance, but I wish I had a chance to go off on one of these jerkoffs.

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**Author:** ![Sqube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@Sqube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sqube)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/38 "2003-12-18T07:16:45Z")

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I laughed when I saw that. I laughed long, and I laughed hard. When I was finished doing that, I laughed some more. I wonder if I can convince my parents to let me go buy a leather jacket tomorrow…

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**Author:** ![Already\_in\_Use](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Already\_in\_Use](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Already_in_Use)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/39 "2003-12-18T11:02:12Z")

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**PETA eats their young. Or your young, whichever’s handy…**

PETA eats **handy**? You mean two wrongs _DO_ make a right?

But seriously, does that pamphlet remind anyone else of the [Onion](http://www.theonion.com/onion2917/porkchart.html)?

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-eats-their-young-or-your-young-whichevers-handy/219602/40 "2003-12-18T12:56:39Z")

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And a round of applause for **myrnajean** …

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