# PETA has partially converted me!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 1, 2000, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629 "2000-09-01T12:46:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/1 "2000-09-01T12:46:10Z")
No, not really. But I **did** actually find a meat-free product yesterday that tastes as good as, if not better than, the meat version - Morningstar Farms Meat-Free Corn Dogs. Good enough that I will likely only eat these, rather than the meat versions, saving at least 3-6 piglets a year from consumption. To the vegan crowd out there - good work! Now make a hamburger patty that doesn’t smell like a Sumo wrestler took a dump on a burning tire, and I’ll buy that too! ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/2 "2000-09-01T12:51:22Z")
Trust me, **Anthracite** , just about any corn dogs you buy qualify as “meat-free.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/3 "2000-09-01T12:52:37Z")
Now if PETA would grow a collective brain, maybe they **might** be worth listening to. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/4 "2000-09-01T12:58:14Z")
Saint Zero, please understand I am **not** unhappy about your post, or your making it. But I do just want to say one thing before people get started - I do not want this thread to be an anti-PETA or anti-vegan one. I wanted to grab people’s attention with a provocative title, true, but I really wanted to say that maybe there **is** hope for vegans who are trying to convert die-hard carnivores like myself. If the food tastes good, they will eat it… ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/5 "2000-09-01T13:02:29Z")
Oh,I understand. 🙂 I just can’t see eating that stuff. I prefer meat. No insult taken here. ---
**Author:** ![Peta\_Tzunami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b487fb/32.png) [@Peta\_Tzunami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peta_Tzunami)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/6 "2000-09-01T13:03:43Z")
Oh, um…\…I thought maybe you were talking about me. **Saint Zero** Just a friendly reminder–this is MPSIMS, not the Pit. Cheers and glad to read it, Anthracite. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/7 "2000-09-01T13:03:57Z")
> [@](#): > > If the food tastes good, they will eat it… Yes, and **cheaper** too. It has to be cheaper than real meat. If they can pull that off, they will convert MANY people. Well… not really _convert_ since these people will not be throwing pies or chaining thenselves to cows or anything. But they will be getting people to eat a lot less meat. And isn’t that one of their main goals? If they spent a little more time on their goals, and less time trying to plaster their name everywhere, they just might accomplish something. … sorry, I know this is not supposed to be a bashing thread. I am trying not to bash. Just saying that if the food tassts good, and is CHEAPER than beef, they will eat it. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/8 "2000-09-01T13:09:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bear\_Nenno \* > \*\*I am trying not to bash. Just saying that if the food tassts good, and is CHEAPER than beef, they will eat it. \*\* Well, a good point too. I didn’t notice at first, but they do cost a bit. Still, after just having eaten 3 of them for breakfast (I know…), I have to say that even though they were $3.45 for 4 of them, I’ll continue to buy them. Plus, they are much lower fat than a “real” corn dog. 150 calories, and 4 grams of fat per doggie. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/9 "2000-09-01T13:10:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bear\_Nenno \* > \*\*I am trying not to bash. Just saying that if the food tassts good, and is CHEAPER than beef, they will eat it. \*\* Well, a good point too. I didn’t notice at first, but they do cost a bit. Still, after just having eaten 3 of them for breakfast (I know…), I have to say that even though they were $3.45 for 4 of them, I’ll continue to buy them. Plus, they are much lower fat than a “real” corn dog. 150 calories, and 4 grams of fat per doggie. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/10 "2000-09-01T13:12:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bear\_Nenno \* > \*\*I am trying not to bash. Just saying that if the food tassts good, and is CHEAPER than beef, they will eat it. \*\* Well, a good point too. I didn’t notice at first, but they do cost a bit. Still, after just having eaten 3 of them for breakfast (I know…), I have to say that even though they were $3.45 for 4 of them, I’ll continue to buy them. Plus, they are much lower fat than a “real” corn dog. 150 calories, and 4 grams of fat per doggie. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@Mr\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Bear)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/11 "2000-09-01T13:24:55Z")
Well since this isn’t an anti-peta thread I guess I have to follow mom’s advice and since I don’t have anything nice to say I won’t say anything! ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/12 "2000-09-01T13:27:57Z")
My God - **why did 3 copies of my post show up**? That sure looks silly… ---
**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/13 "2000-09-01T13:28:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Now make a hamburger patty that doesn’t smell like a Sumo wrestler took a dump on a burning tire, and I’ll buy that too! Anthacrite, I am a meat and dairy girl myself but for me it’s not about vegan or not, it’s about good tasting food. If you have a Red Robin restaurant near you, they have an awesome veggie burger. I am too chicken (hehe) to try the veggie burgers in the frozen food section though. Oh, and corn dogs? Eeeewwwww – never liked the critters. But then again I am not a big hot dog either. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/14 "2000-09-01T13:36:28Z")
now,I’ll admit that most hot dogs are vile. I like corn dogs, all beef with mustard. And you _can’t_ convince me that a veggie burger is as good as a double cheeseburger. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Michi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@Michi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michi)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/15 "2000-09-01T13:48:31Z")
Morningstar also makes a good imitation chicken nugget. I find that I like them a little over cooked, so their texture is not so soft. Also, I like to dip them in A-1 steak sauce (I know that is kinda funny, but I really do.) 🙂 They have a buffalo wing version of their chicken nuggets, but they have 9 grams of fat! I have tried ALL the versions of fake hamburger patties (Morningstar, GardenBurger, BocaBurger) and they ALL taste like crap! No matter HOW I try to prepare them, or WHAT I try to cover them with–YUCK!!! I do have a bag of tofu crumbles that I am going to try in place of ground beef the next time I make tacos. I have had people tell me that when mixed in recipes like this, it really does taste like meat. We’ll see. Every time I open my freezer I see the bag sitting there…I touch it…and then I am too afraid to open it and use it. Someone…hold my hand…🙂 Phil? Peta? ---
**Author:** ![Rosebud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rosebud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rosebud)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/16 "2000-09-01T13:53:02Z")
Ohhh, Morningstar corn dogs… Anthracite, they also make mini-corn dogs, which are nice as a snack or (very) light meal. If you want to experiment more with veg food, they’re a good brand to try-- they make “chix” patties that are quite yummy, also a “burger” and cheese wrap. Their chix patties remind me of something I was served at lunch in grade school (in a good way, I swear!). Not that I mind, but I’m wondering if they were feeding us soy instead of meat, without telling us. ---
**Author:** ![Sea\_Sloth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Sea\_Sloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sea_Sloth)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/17 "2000-09-01T14:02:24Z")
Well, I am a meat eater, but not that often. I actually prefer tofu in all its wonderful manifestations. Brunch, however, cannot be undertaken without sausage or bacon. I have tried meat substitute products because I have many vegetarian friends, but don’t usually come back for seconds. The only one I really can’t stand, though, is tempeh (sp?). Is this not the most vile…oh…gross…ick. Must. Visit. Bathroom. ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/18 "2000-09-01T14:05:51Z")
**Michi** : What brand of the crumbly stuff do you have? Green Giant makes a good one, and there’s a sausage-flavored brand called “Gimme Lean!” That’s excellent. Not only is it good in tacos, but in spaghetti sauces and stuffed peppers and things, too. **Anthracite** : Welcome to the Dark Side! 😃 THe best burger that you can buy frozen, IMHO, is the Morningstar Farms “Prime Patties.” Don’t nuke them, though–toss them in a frying pan sprayed with PAM or something for about 5 minutes per side, and they’re really good. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/19 "2000-09-01T14:08:40Z")
Lots of good suggestions for me to try out. Thanks guys! ---
**Author:** ![Michi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@Michi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michi)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2000, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629/20 "2000-09-01T14:15:53Z")
The fake meat I have is also by Morningstar. Maybe I’ll go out and buy the Green Giant kind and donate the Morningstar stuff to the stray cats outside…🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-has-partially-converted-me/31629.md?page=2)