# PETA - Pesople for the Ethical Treatment of Animals to change name to PUKA - People f **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 17, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732 "2005-06-17T18:46:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/21 "2005-06-18T03:36:14Z")
What happened to the 7641 sterilized? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/22 "2005-06-18T04:04:57Z")
According to [this](http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002339482_webpeta17.html) article: > [@](#): > > Veterinarians and animal-control officers said the PETA workers had promised to find homes for the animals rather than euthanize them, according to police. Fuckers. > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > ``` > What happened to the 7641 sterilized? > > ``` Hmm, seems that figure might have come from [here](http://www.peta.org/about/numbers.asp). > [@](#): > > • PETA’s SNIP-mobile spayed and neutered 7,641 cats and dogs in our hometown area of Hampton Roads, Va., including 176 pit bulls free of charge and 781 feral cats. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/23 "2005-06-18T04:11:26Z")
If true, that’s both sad and sick at the same time. While I never cared for PETA, I thought they were at least kind to animals. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/24 "2005-06-18T04:11:51Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > > [@Spectre of Pithecanthropus](#): > > > > Because they don’t believe domesticated dogs and cats should even exist? > > That’s definitely not what PETA believes (at least not officially as an organization; I won’t vouch for any individual idiot in the organization). I don’t know. The founders have repeatedly stated that pets shouldn’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/25 "2005-06-18T04:13:47Z")
Guess I should have scrolled down first. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/26 "2005-06-18T04:28:15Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > Uh… > > By “any individual idiot in the organization” do you mean Ingrid Newkirk, the founder and president? > > > [@](#): > > > > Ingrid Newkirk said: > > \ But as the surplus of cats and dogs (artificially engineered by centuries of forced breeding) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship – enjoyment at a distance. Am I understanding this guy correctly? Is he actually advocating the planned extinction of several hundred species of animals because he thinks having a pet is unethical? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/27 "2005-06-18T04:44:00Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Am I understanding this guy correctly? Is he actually advocating the planned extinction of several hundred species of animals because he thinks having a pet is unethical? “She” and I get the distinct impression that she won’t be happy until _Homo erectus_ dies out. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/28 "2005-06-18T04:55:44Z")
I’m amazed. PETA is even more fucked up than I thought it was. And I already thought they were nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/29 "2005-06-18T04:58:59Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > “She” and I get the distinct impression that she won’t be happy until Homo erectus dies out. Then she ought to be over the moon with glee. The latest information I’ve come across says that _Homo erectus_ died out some [50,000 years](http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/erec.html) ago. (Thanks for letting me know she’s a she. I tend to write PETA off as real wingnuts, so I studiously ignore them.) ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/30 "2005-06-18T14:53:21Z")
Doesn’t PETA believe that pets should die out? ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/31 "2005-06-18T14:54:55Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Doesn’t PETA believe that pets should die out? I forgot to add… perhaps using 1920’s-style death rays? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/32 "2005-06-18T18:31:03Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Then she ought to be over the moon with glee. The latest information I’ve come across says that _Homo erectus_ died out some [50,000 years](http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/erec.html) ago. Yeah, yeah, I meant _sapien_. High school was 20 years ago. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/33 "2005-06-18T18:46:37Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > “She” and I get the distinct impression that she won’t be happy until _Homo erectus_ dies out. I thought you were being ironic or sardonic or something. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/34 "2005-06-18T19:09:35Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > The story I read this morning reported they were taking animals _for the purpose of adoption_ and euthanizing them. [This story](http://www.wral.com/news/4622463/detail.html) from the local news channel says the same thing; animal control thought the animals had been picked up as part of an adoption program. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/35 "2005-06-18T19:33:49Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Yeah, yeah, I meant _sapien_. High school was 20 years ago. 🙂 Even 20 years ago, _Homo erectus_ had already gone extinct. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/36 "2005-06-18T20:38:53Z")
Ingrid Newkirk is also an insulin dependant diabetic, and thus, for most of her life has benefitted from the same kinds of animal testing she claims to abhor. Of course she says because of her desire to “save” animals, that it’s perfectly okay for **her** to use those things, but the rest of us should just suffer and die. And hey, let’s also forget that animals under the protective care of humans tend to live **longer, healthier lives** than they do in the wild. Damn, I think I’m going to have to go get me some KFC now. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/37 "2005-06-18T21:15:06Z")
NO KFC! Don’t you know that mad, evil scientists have genetically engineered chickens with no beaks and no teeth! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/38 "2005-06-18T22:07:10Z")
> [@GaWd](#): > > NO KFC! Don’t you know that mad, evil scientists have genetically engineered chickens with no beaks and no teeth! 😃 They’ve also apparantly engineered them to be rubbery and covered with a tacky substance that has no resemblence to what it was supposed to taste like. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/39 "2005-06-18T22:34:37Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I thought you were being ironic or sardonic or something. 🙂 I posted the wrong species because at some point in the past 20 years I had forgotten which ones we are. Should’ve just said “humans”. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732/40 "2005-06-18T22:41:09Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Am I understanding this guy correctly? Is he actually advocating the planned extinction of several hundred species of animals because he thinks having a pet is unethical? I’m not getting that at all. Where on earth are you seeing ‘several hundred species?’ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peta-pesople-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-to-change-name-to-puka-people-f/308732.md?page=3)