# Pete Buttigeig stops releasing bundler names and blocks press from fundraising events. S

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**Created:** [December 10, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635 "2019-12-10T05:20:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Barack\_Obama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dc4da7/32.png) [@Barack\_Obama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barack_Obama)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/1 "2019-12-10T05:20:27Z")

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> **[Here Are the Lobbyists and Corporate Execs Collecting Checks for Pete Buttigieg](https://readsludge.com/2019/12/09/here-are-the-lobbyists-and-corporate-execs-collecting-checks-for-pete-buttigieg/)**
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> As the Buttigieg campaign stops releasing its bundler names and blocks press from fundraising events, here are some of the pharmaceutical and finance executives behind its rise in the big money race, and three attorneys whose donations were returned.

He also says he will not stop taking money from billionaires or corporations.

> <https://twitter.com/amiraminimd/status/1203821639131172869?s=21>

Here is his response to not letting the press in for fundraising events.

> <https://twitter.com/prettygoodphil/status/1203350790590664705?s>

Weasel Pete is going to get kneecapped over his corporatists behavior. It should also be brought up that back in his city, the law enforcement used pete’s donors to get him to fire that black police chief, and in these same records those people were being racist and imitating ebonics.

> **[Documents: Police Used Buttigieg Donors to Get Him to Fire Black Chief](https://tyt.com/stories/4vZLCHuQrYE4uKagy0oyMA/22kkCiHxZkbeKfsQZwkvIm)**
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> Ed. note: In an Oct. 29 interview, Capt. Dave Wells said that documents cited in this story were not authentic and denied saying a...

As anyone with a brain expected, Pete is a corporate shill doing the bidding of his donors and continuing the legacy of the corporate democratic party. As you see with many dopers support for him, he’s a centrist who appeals to older democratic voters. He had abysmal approval by blacks in SC. He’s taking money from organizations that were started up to combat M4A. Support for pete coming from dopers specifically really goes to show how out of touch many democrats are. Thank god we have Sanders who’s rallying up support among non-voters, independent voters, and even pulls the largest number of trump voters than any other candidate.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
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I never liked the guy.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/3 "2019-12-10T05:27:41Z")

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Oh good, another automated Bernie Bot post from Barack Obama.

ETA: So he’s a centrist who wants to raise money to win. OK.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/4 "2019-12-10T05:36:18Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Oh good, another automated Bernie Bot post from Barack Obama.
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> ETA: So he’s a centrist who wants to raise money to win. OK.

But you don’t understand: The monies are /evil/.

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**Author:** ![Barack\_Obama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dc4da7/32.png) [@Barack\_Obama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barack_Obama)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/5 "2019-12-10T06:37:31Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> But you don’t understand: The monies are /evil/.

You both are completely missing or avoiding the issue here. Money influences people, having an billionaires and multi billion dollars corporations line your pockets when you’re running for or are in office is a conflict of interest.

Despite the obvious issues, if we want to ignore all substance and merit… majority of americans want to get money out of politics. And you can’t sit here and tell me they absolutely have to take billionaire checks to win an election, there are plenty of candidates who are out fundraising their corp counter parts with small donations per individual alone at the grass roots level.

Weasel Pete can’t weasel himself outta this one, and you guys can’t defend this trash even if you tried.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/6 "2019-12-10T06:48:59Z")

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> [@Barack\_Obama](#):
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> You both are completely missing or avoiding the issue here. Money influences people, having an billionaires and multi billion dollars corporations line your pockets when you’re running for or are in office is a conflict of interest.

It’s also how you win, whether it should be or not.

Booty might be a corrupt sell-out, I don’t know. But anyone who wants to change the system to remove these sorts of issues is going to have to get into a position of power in order to do it and that means doing what it takes to get there. Anyone who doesn’t do that may be principled but they’re also never going to have any effect on anything.

I’d take Booty over Trump and it’s worth remembering that before shading the guy. So far as this next election is concerned, they’re all beauteous godlings so be they not Trump.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I’d take Booty over Trump and it’s worth remembering that before shading the guy. So far as this next election is concerned, they’re all beauteous godlings so be they not Trump.

Of course. Sometimes we read in these threads, something like “But I’ll vote for Biden if he’s the nominee.” Duuh. _Of course you will._ Otherwise you’d be like the proverbial restaurant customer: **Waiter:** “Sorry, sir. We’re out of capers. But we can serve your veal piccata with a delicious olive salad that mimics caper flavor.”  
**Customer:** “Veal piccata without capers? Heaven forbid! Bring me your only other menu item then: what was it? Dog-shit sandwich garnished with horse piss.”

My only problem with Buttigieg is his _electability_. Between his lack of experience and homosexuality, I’m afraid a lot of “independent” voters will find reason not to vote for him.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/8 "2019-12-10T09:51:10Z")

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**“Pete Buttigeig stops releasing bundler names and blocks press from fundraising events.”**

So why is the _Washington Post_ reporting the exact opposite of this thread?

[Pete Buttigieg agrees to more transparency on campaign money](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pete-buttigieg-agrees-to-more-transparency-on-campaign-money/2019/12/09/ca0aa966-1ac4-11ea-87f7-f2e91143c60d_story.html)

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> Dec. 9, 2019 at 6:10 p.m. EST
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> Presidential contender Pete Buttigieg announced Monday that he would open his fundraisers to journalists and disclose the names of people raising money for his campaign, the latest step in an ongoing skirmish over transparency with Democratic rival Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
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> Reporters will be allowed into Buttigieg’s large-dollar fundraising events starting Tuesday, and the South Bend, Ind., mayor will release a list of his “bundlers” — those who funnel large sums of money to campaigns — within a week, according to Buttigieg campaign manager Mike Schmuhl.

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Because the OP is citing Twitter - arguably a worse source than, well, anything?

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It’s funny how in the purity test of frowning upon fundraisers and billionaire donors, all it’s actually achieved is allow two billionaires to join the race. Because Trump is sitting on a war chest of money so when candidates in the democratic primary are essentially disarming themselves you end up like Beto and Kamala — good grassroots support but no money to keep competing, the billionaire like Steyer and Bloomberg thinks “I can stop him”. Most working people can’t afford to constantly chuck in more money on ActBlue for a candidate every other week. But Steyer and Bloomberg aren’t dependent on small donors.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/11 "2019-12-10T11:57:00Z")

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What Pete is doing is fairly standard, but I’m not sure standard politician behavior cuts it in 2020.

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The more I read criticism of Pete that’s based on erroneous Twitter statements, the more likely I am to support him.

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**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\
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Mayor Pete is the most charismatic Dem candidate. Therefore, he’s the most likely candidate to beat Trump. Therefore, I don’t care if he takes money from Satan himself. Now get a new schtick.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/14 "2019-12-10T12:38:48Z")

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Mayor Pete is the most charismatic Democratic candidate to white voters. Minority voters seem to be seeing something entirely different. That makes him LESS electable than other Democrats if that holds up.

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Mayor Pete is the most charismatic Democratic candidate to white voters. Minority voters seem to be seeing something entirely different. That makes him LESS electable than other Democrats if that holds up.

“If”. “Seem to be”.

Got a reasonable cite?

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/16 "2019-12-10T12:52:17Z")

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It could also be that minority voters won’t vote for a gay candidate, but we’re not really supposed to talk about that.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/17 "2019-12-10T13:01:43Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Mayor Pete is the most charismatic Democratic candidate to white voters. Minority voters seem to be seeing something entirely different. That makes him LESS electable than other Democrats if that holds up.

That might cost Buttigieg the nomination, but it wouldn’t cost him the general. They may not like Buttigieg, but they _hate_ Trump.

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Maybe. Election polls right now show Buttigieg weak against Trump. That could be name recognition. It could also reflect low turnout if he’s the nominee.

I’m positive on Buttigieg so I hope you’re right but I’ve got this nagging feeling that he might have a real minority problem in the general as well as the primaries. Partly due to being gay, partly due to his South Bend record.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/19 "2019-12-10T14:10:02Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> **“Pete Buttigeig stops releasing bundler names and blocks press from fundraising events.”**
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> So why is the _Washington Post_ reporting the exact opposite of this thread?
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> [Pete Buttigieg agrees to more transparency on campaign money](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pete-buttigieg-agrees-to-more-transparency-on-campaign-money/2019/12/09/ca0aa966-1ac4-11ea-87f7-f2e91143c60d_story.html)

> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Because the OP is citing Twitter - arguably a worse source than, well, anything?

> **[Buttigieg Struggles to Square Transparency With Nondisclosure Agreement...](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/us/politics/Buttigieg-McKinsey-Disclosure.html)**
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> Mr. Buttigieg says he has no choice but to honor the agreement he signed while working for McKinsey & Company. Critics say it undermines his image of transparency.

Hey guys, just to let you know I recently turned water into wine. Now, if you’re going to sit there and ask me questions about the reality of me turning water into wine, well I got to go, we need to keep the status quo while appearing as if we’re going to change something. Oh crap, donors calling, can’t say anything else bye!

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Messiah comparisons already? This is rich coming from the guy who gushes all over the flawlessness and purity of Bernie in every thread he appears in.

By the way, the NDA that was preventing Pete from talking about his time in corporate America has been lifted. [Buttigieg and Warren come clean in tangle over transparency - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/buttigieg-warren-transparency-tangle-2020-079636)

But please, continue on with your rant disguised as a political discussion.

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