# Pete Buttigeig stops releasing bundler names and blocks press from fundraising events. S

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 10, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635 "2019-12-10T05:20:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/21 "2019-12-10T15:17:05Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> But you don’t understand: The monies are /evil/.

But they come with a frozen yogurt that I call [“Frogurt.”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlcFTbgoeBk)

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/22 "2019-12-10T16:08:51Z")

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> [@Barack\_Obama](#):
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> [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/us/politics/Buttigieg-McKinsey-Disclosure.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/us/politics/Buttigieg-McKinsey-Disclosure.html)
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> Hey guys, just to let you know I recently turned water into wine. Now, if you’re going to sit there and ask me questions about the reality of me turning water into wine, well I got to go, we need to keep the status quo while appearing as if we’re going to change something. Oh crap, donors calling, can’t say anything else bye!

Yeah, you’re really grasping, man.

And I know you don’t see this, but Bernie Bros being so aggressive actually costs him votes and it pushes people away. I could introduce you to a phrase concerning flies and honey.

In short, posts like yours actually harm your chosen candidate.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/23 "2019-12-10T17:07:46Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> It could also be that minority voters won’t vote for a gay candidate, but we’re not really supposed to talk about that.

…you shouldn’t talk about something that [really isn’t happening](https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2019/11/04/homophobia-isnt-reason-black-voters-dont-pete-buttigieg). Minority voters won’t vote for Buggigeig because of shit like [this](https://theintercept.com/2019/11/15/pete-buttigieg-campaign-black-voters/) and [this](https://www.vox.com/2019/6/27/18759807/pete-buttigieg-town-hall-protesters-police-shooting-2020?__c=1). Buttigieg obviously appeals to white voters: his focus-tested campaign pivots and charm offenses are aimed squarely at that demographic. But the “Douglass Plan” should have sounded alarm bells. That is hasn’t: that his cult-of-personality and lack of actual substance seems to make him even more popular (with white voters) says a lot. We live in a world where the guy who literally [steals a reporters phone](https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/boris-johnson-pockets-reporters-phone-17388363)_on camera_ is likely to get re-elected as Prime Minister, we’ve got this [guy](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/10/scott-morrison-rejects-calls-for-more-help-saying-volunteer-firefighters-want-to-be-there)rejecting calls for more bushfire help, saying volunteer firefighters ‘want to be there’, America has a president who is the stupidest man on the planet, so it shouldn’t surprise me that an empty suit like Buttigieg can be so popular. This isn’t about homophobia. Buttigieg simply isn’t the best candidate that is running.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/24 "2019-12-10T18:09:30Z")

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Moved from Elections to The BBQ Pit.

There is serious content in here that could be opened as a new thread in Elections, but the tone of most posts (including the OP) tends toward rans and bickering.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/25 "2019-12-10T18:11:12Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> The more I read criticism of Pete that’s based on erroneous Twitter statements, the more likely I am to support him.

I have to wonder how much of it is just lying bullshit (all of it???) from BernieBots, Republican trolls, and Russians.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/26 "2019-12-10T18:14:06Z")

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This time, it looks like the Bernie Bros are having the heart attack.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/27 "2019-12-10T18:14:39Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Yeah, you’re really grasping, man.
> 
> And I know you don’t see this, but Bernie Bros being so aggressive actually costs him votes and it pushes people away. I could introduce you to a phrase concerning flies and honey.
> 
> In short, posts like yours actually harm your chosen candidate.

I’m going to make a prediction. If Bernie doesn’t get nominated, his Bernie Bros are going to throw a fucking tantrum and hand it to Trump again.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/28 "2019-12-10T18:58:26Z")

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It should be noted that [Elizabeth Warren](http://politico.com/news/2019/11/18/big-democratic-donors-elizabeth-warren-2020-071333), who’s been attacking “Mayor Pete” over fundraising, hasn’t exactly shut out [big-money donors](http://opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/contributors?id=N00033492) herself.

And even Mr. Purity-Of-Essence himself, Bernie Sanders [isn’t above courting the large check-writing crowd](http://buzzfeednews.com/article/rubycramer/bernie-sanders-institute-donations) and being less than open about it.

Anyone who thinks there wouldn’t be major rewards for top contributors to a 2020 Democratic winner is delusional.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/29 "2019-12-10T21:40:14Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> It should be noted that [Elizabeth Warren](http://politico.com/news/2019/11/18/big-democratic-donors-elizabeth-warren-2020-071333), who’s been attacking “Mayor Pete” over fundraising, hasn’t exactly shut out [big-money donors](http://opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/contributors?id=N00033492) herself.
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> And even Mr. Purity-Of-Essence himself, Bernie Sanders [isn’t above courting the large check-writing crowd](http://buzzfeednews.com/article/rubycramer/bernie-sanders-institute-donations) and being less than open about it.
> 
> Anyone who thinks there wouldn’t be major rewards for top contributors to a 2020 Democratic winner is delusional.

**All that matters, is getting rid of Trump**. All the rest of this talk about campaign financing and “purity” is bullshit.

Anyone who votes for Trump because they didn’t get their way, spends their vote on some third party troll because they didn’t get their way, or stays at home wasting a vote because they didn’t get their way, helps Trump and can go get fucked.

**All that matters, is getting rid of Trump**.

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/30 "2019-12-10T22:24:14Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> **All that matters, is getting rid of Trump**. All the rest of this talk about campaign financing and “purity” is bullshit.
> 
> Anyone who votes for Trump because they didn’t get their way, spends their vote on some third party troll because they didn’t get their way, or stays at home wasting a vote because they didn’t get their way, helps Trump and can go get fucked.
> 
> **All that matters, is getting rid of Trump**.

And, if I might add; Any Republicans you happen to stumble across as well, please.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/31 "2019-12-10T22:33:14Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> **All that matters, is getting rid of Trump**.

I still haven’t remotely made up my mind who I’ll be voting for on March 24 of next year, but on November 3 I’ll vote for Bloomberg/Williamson (or Williamson/Bloomberg) over Trump/Pence (although I certainly wouldn’t be very god-damned happy on Election Day in that event).

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/32 "2019-12-10T22:58:49Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> It should be noted that [Elizabeth Warren](http://politico.com/news/2019/11/18/big-democratic-donors-elizabeth-warren-2020-071333), who’s been attacking “Mayor Pete” over fundraising, hasn’t exactly shut out [big-money donors](http://opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/contributors?id=N00033492) herself.

All that says is that people who work at Google, the University of California, Harvard and so forth contributed to her campaign. How is that considered “big-money donors”? The $116,000 from Harvard could have been from 58 faculty members who each gave $2,000.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/33 "2019-12-11T00:22:25Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> All that says is that people who work at Google, the University of California, Harvard and so forth contributed to her campaign. How is that considered “big-money donors”? The $116,000 from Harvard could have been from 58 faculty members who each gave $2,000.

In addition to Alphabet Inc. (Google)'s 200K+ there are also sizable listed contributions to Warren from such entities as Amazon, Microsoft, IBM, Kaiser Permanente and AT&T, which are not exactly the Little People.\*

\*I have no idea whether major donations from big-time universities represent the sum total of individual prof donations, though I kinda doubt it. It’s weird that there are Warren donations on opensecret listed as coming from the “U.S. Government” and “City of New York”. 😕:dubious:  
In any case, Warren is not subsisting entirely on $2 PayPal contributions from Bob and Betty Citizen.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/34 "2019-12-11T00:37:32Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Oh good, another automated Bernie Bot post from Barack Obama.

You mean, someone on the Dope who dares to voice the opinions common to US Democratic voters under 40, rather than another rich old Buttigieg donor.

> [@](#):
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> ETA: So he’s a centrist who wants to raise money to win. OK.

“Centrist” can mean conservative and/or non-ideological, but these days it seems to be a nice way of saying corrupt.

Also, Pete’s not going to win the nomination. There was never any hope of him winning. So if he’s raising money, I guess it’s to raise money?

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**Author:** ![Barack\_Obama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dc4da7/32.png) [@Barack\_Obama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barack_Obama)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/35 "2019-12-11T00:56:20Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Moved from Elections to The BBQ Pit.
> 
> There is serious content in here that could be opened as a new thread in Elections, but the tone of most posts (including the OP) tends toward rans and bickering.

I didn’t expect this, because you dislike the content of this thread you’ll move it?

Okay ill repost it since you said that, we’ll see if you move it again.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/36 "2019-12-11T01:49:28Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> I still haven’t remotely made up my mind who I’ll be voting for on March 24 of next year, but on November 3 I’ll vote for Bloomberg/Williamson (or Williamson/Bloomberg) over Trump/Pence (although I certainly wouldn’t be very god-damned happy on Election Day in that event).

Same here. I can’t stand Bloomberg, but that doesn’t match the level of hate and disgust I have for Traitor Trump

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/37 "2019-12-11T01:55:44Z")

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If Bernie were the Dem nominee, I’d probably support him and then hope he gets 25th amendment treatment. He’d be a fecking disaster of a president. He’d probably result in a military coup and Democrats would be outlawed.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/38 "2019-12-11T02:08:19Z")

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> [@Barack\_Obama](#):
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> I didn’t expect this, because you dislike the content of this thread you’ll move it?
> 
> Okay ill repost it since you said that, we’ll see if you move it again.

[MAGA crowd chanting]  
Lock that thread!  
Lock that thread!  
Lock that thread!

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/39 "2019-12-11T03:36:46Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Also, Pete’s not going to win the nomination. There was never any hope of him winning. So if he’s raising money, I guess it’s to raise money?

I think that your prediction is premature, but even if not, I believe that he’d have access to the money in a future political campaign; say, for congress in 2 years.

Speaking of fundraising, I’ve heard it remarked that Buttigieg and Mark Zuckerberg attended Harvard at the same time, and have some acquaintances in common, suggesting that he might have an inside track for Silicon Valley funding.

> **[How Pete Buttigieg became the new toast of Silicon Valley’s wealthiest donors](https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/5/7/18527646/pete-buttigieg-silicon-valley-donors-mark-zuckerberg)**
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> Inside the tech network that is trying to turn a small-town mayor into a fundraising dynamo.

I realize that this infuriates the leftmost wing of the Democratic Party, but it does speak to potential long term viability as a candidate.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2019, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigeig-stops-releasing-bundler-names-and-blocks-press-from-fundraising-events-s/844635/40 "2019-12-11T05:55:45Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> **All that matters, is getting rid of Trump**. All the rest of this talk about campaign financing and “purity” is bullshit.
> 
> Anyone who votes for Trump because they didn’t get their way, spends their vote on some third party troll because they didn’t get their way, or stays at home wasting a vote because they didn’t get their way, helps Trump and can go get fucked.
> 
> **All that matters, is getting rid of Trump**.

…all the more reason to put the candidates through their paces \*\*now \*\*before the primaries so you can pick the best candidate for President of the United States of America. Posts like yours are all about silencing dissent, and at this stage of the campaign is the real bullshit take. Buttigeig would be a terrible president IMHO. I think he is the absolute worse of the leading contenders. The right time to talk about that is now, not after he gets the nomination, and if you don’t like that well tough shit.

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