# Pete Buttigieg vs John Hickenlooper: Democratic Primary World Cup, First Round **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 30, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigieg-vs-john-hickenlooper-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834774 "2019-05-30T15:21:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigieg-vs-john-hickenlooper-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834774/21 "2019-05-31T21:32:50Z")
I am really coming to hate the democratic field many of the major candidates have no experience (Harris, O’Rourke, Buttigieg) or have so much experience I’d rather see them retire then win an election (Biden and Sanders). I’ll vote for whoever over trump but just like with our governor here in Colorado I knew I’d be unhappy with my vote when I cast is just less unhappy than if the other guy won. I like Hick he’s smart and has good experience but he’s put his foot in his mouth too much early on so he doesn’t really have chance. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigieg-vs-john-hickenlooper-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834774/22 "2019-05-31T22:14:21Z")
> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#): > > I think that literally the only thing that matters in Presidential elections is charisma. Nothing - not facts, not policies, not experience, not even basic competence - is remotely important. If you’re more charismatic than the other guy, you win. End of story. > > Mayor Pete has charisma to burn. He could beat Trump. I think Hickenlooper might struggle. Therefore, I’m voting for Mayor Pete. Not 100%, but Maybe 70% of the vote will follow basic charisma. But 20% will sign on as homophobes; and another 10% will decide small-town mayor is WAY underqualified. I’m afraid Mayor Pete would not be able to beat the Trump. A Hickenlooper-Buttigieg ticket might be OK. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigieg-vs-john-hickenlooper-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834774/23 "2019-05-31T23:04:03Z")
There are some pretty good candidates running. I think the likes of Sen. Warren & Gov. Inslee would be pretty reasonable choices in any cycle. But there are also a few no-hopers like Buttigieg who are just far enough above Vermin Supreme to pretend they aren’t no-hopers; and the press seem to want to talk about them, making better candidates look like no-hopers too. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigieg-vs-john-hickenlooper-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834774/24 "2019-06-01T01:59:50Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Where’s Hickenlooper on climate change? I get the impression that he’s pretty centrist, so I’m kinda nervous about whether he’d bother to push through anything halfway ambitious to deal with global warming. I’m not certain about any announced policy proposals, but Hickenlooper started his professional career as a geologist. He would probably be very receptive to the concerns of scientists. I should warn you, though, that his persona is that of a professor type. Very nebbish. His charisma is on the opposite end of the spectrum as Pete. And I say that as somebody who likes him (and even met him once!) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-buttigieg-vs-john-hickenlooper-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834774.md?page=1)