For anyone that cares, the coroner said his death was due to
According to ESPN.
Maybe both. His Reds team finished second and won 89 games in 1985, 5 1/2 games behind the Dodgers. The other first baseman on the team, Tony Perez, was just a year younger than Rose. If Perez plays more, maybe they win 6 more games. Or maybe not.
No, I have to be clear on this; the Hall of Fame explained nothing of the sort, and never invited Pete Rose to “re-qualify” for anything. MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL was the entity he had to appeal to and convince that he was no longer a risk to the integrity of the sport. The Hall of Fame is a separate institution that could have chosen to allow his induction even if he was prohibited from working in MLB.
Of course Rose is wholly at fault for gambling on baseball and refusing to change himself or take any real responsibility, but it was, in fact, the HOF’s choice to alter their rules to keep him out as long as he was in MLB’s permanent ineligibility list. That’s all I’m saying. I am sure you and I agree Rose was wholly morally responsible for his fate.
No one said much about it at the time. The Cincinnati Reds could have stopped him. He wasn’t the GM or the owner. He broke no rules. It was pretty evident what he was doing… thugh I would not rule out self delusion, either. After all he kept playing in 1986 even though he’d broken the record in 1985.
It is worth nothing that, in fact, until after he broke the record, he played pretty well in Cincinnati. He had been a very bad player from 1982-1984 in Philadelphia and Montreal, but he wasn’t his own manager. When he joined the Reds again in 1984, from then through 1985 he batted .283 with a .401 on base percentage, which is a productive offensive player - that was by far the highest on base percentage of anyone on the team, and over that period of time was the fourth best on base percentage in the National League. He had no power, but he was not hurting the Reds, and the team played significantly better than they had in years.
Having broken the record, Rose then started being awful in 1986, and really he should not have kept playing himself as much as he did; there was never any time in 1986 when he didn’t look cooked. By the end of May he was batting .167, and he didn’t give up until August. But it wasn’t because he was trying to break any record.
I’d be willing to bet (heh) that he hadn’t visited a doctor in years.
Understand, he was once one of my favorite players. Sad.
Me too. then he bet on baseball and I was done.
That’s a slippery slope. For instance, the Nats keep putting Joey Gallo (hitting .161) in the lineup.
Is Joey Gallo the manager?
Just dropping this in. Look in the lower left corner.
Okay, one more thing. At least Pete Rose didn’t kill anyone. As far as the WWE is concerned, Chris Benoit was on their roster, but that’s about it. His name is mentioned only when it can’t be avoided. His matches are shown only when they’re an essential part of a retrospective on whoever his opponent was, and even then, his face is obscured. Down the memory hole! (I’d say Winston Smith would be proud, but Winston hated his job.)
Right now on ebay, there are about 70-80 items signed by Pete Rose that include the inscription “sorry I bet on baseball.”
I guess it’s the thought that counts:
So he’s going to pardon his for tax evasion. That’s what he went to prison for. The fuck does that have to do with the Hall of Fame?
Absolutely nothing, other than Trump flexing his muscles. One could foresee the next step would be pressuring Rob Manfred into removing Rose from the “ineligible list,” for whatever reason.
And that is exactly what’s about to happen:
“Nice antitrust exemption you’ve got there. Be a shame if anything happened to it.”
I was thinking exactly that.
Well okay but it wasn’t a request by Trump, who could probably not tell you two things about Pete Rose.
Honestly, if they want to take Rose off the ineligible list, which would meant the HOF could add him to some “Era” committee and induct him, I’m okay with that. The point of banning people for gambling is to protect MLB from a conflict of interest. It’s not a morality thing. Rose is dead, he can’t be compromised anymore, and he was a great and historically significant player.
Winston Smith enjoyed his job. “Winston’s greatest pleasure in life was in his work.”
Oh, okay. I’ve managed to avoid reading that since it was assigned in my 12th grade English class.
National Lampoon had a great cover of Rose “hustling” down to first on a walker.