# Pete Stark is a frickin' idiot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 6, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709 "2010-07-06T13:47:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/21 "2010-07-06T18:36:58Z")
Why should the Minutemice be treated with anything other than disdain? I don’t see you objecting when a Republican like Bush requires people to sign a loyalty oath to their campaign to come into the same hall. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/22 "2010-07-06T18:51:29Z")
Shit, for $5 a _box_ you can get an awful lot of BBs. Throw handfuls of them all along the border. Not only will it stop illegal entry, the videos of the slipping and falling will be hilarious! Now, since this will be just as effective at preventing illegal entry as a wall (chain-link, great, or otherwise), I demand that I be taken seriously. I DEMAND TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/23 "2010-07-06T18:59:36Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > “Illegal” is an adjective. Our language has no plural form for adjectives. “Illegals” is not a valid word in our language. > > Q.E.D. > > Knock it off. Sorry, [not](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illegal) [true](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/illegal). ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/24 "2010-07-06T19:00:06Z")
We should all stop for a moment and reflect on how utterly and amazingly stupid and uninformed Clothahump is. … Okay? Everyone done? Good, you may now resume the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/25 "2010-07-06T19:12:05Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > [http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html](http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html) > > And the [Border Fence Project](http://www.borderfenceproject.com/) is currently building new fencing at $5 per foot. A study by an anti-immigration organization finds that illegal immigration costs money? Shocking! ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/26 "2010-07-06T19:37:06Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Sorry, [not](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illegal) [true](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/illegal). You gave **kaylasdad99** the blues. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/27 "2010-07-06T19:47:27Z")
“The blues ain’t about making yourself feel good. The blues is about making other people feel bad!” - “Bleeding Gums” Murphy ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/28 "2010-07-06T20:05:46Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Total Miles of US-Mexico border: 1,969. > Total feet: 10,396,320 So if we took everyone on unemployment and had them link arms, we could create a human fence along the southern border? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/29 "2010-07-06T20:20:04Z")
Red Rover, Red Rover, let Luis come over! ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/30 "2010-07-06T20:29:11Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > That’s still cheaper than the cost of having illegals flood across the border. Yes but without the benefit of all that cheap labor. > [@](#): > > This is an old study from 2003. I can only imagine that the costs have gone higher. Your estimate is a bargain compared to the existing costs. > > [http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html](http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html) I don’t know a lot of people that are championing illegal immigration and the econmic impact of illegal immigration is real and significant. as a quick aside, 2010 was the first year when more than half of US households received more in direct payments than they paid in taxes. Now a lot of these are retireees whor eceive social security and medicare but the point remains. This obviously doesn’t argue for adding more illegal aliens to the mix but its something to think about before we protray this cheap labor as parasites on society. > [@](#): > > And the [Border Fence Project](http://www.borderfenceproject.com/) is currently building new fencing at $5 per foot. IIRC, its $5/foot because most of the 5 miles of fencings was paid for by the folks that owned the land along the border. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/31 "2010-07-06T20:37:59Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Shit, for $5 a _box_ you can get an awful lot of BBs. Throw handfuls of them all along the border. Not only will it stop illegal entry, the videos of the slipping and falling will be hilarious! > > Now, since this will be just as effective at preventing illegal entry as a wall (chain-link, great, or otherwise), I demand that I be taken seriously. > > I DEMAND TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY! Well fencing does work in diverting illegal crossing to places where there isn’t any fencing. So the answer to that has been “lets fence the entire border” Well that’s where the ladder comes in. Unless you are ready to patrol the entire border, the fence just slows down an individual illegal immigrant, it doesn’t slow down illegal immigration. The only places i know whereh they are able to maintain border integrity with any success is places like the Berlin Wall, North Korea’s northern border with China, the wall around Gaza, the Jewish ghettos, etc. You have to be willing to shoot to kill to deter people from moving cross an imaginary line in the middle of the desert that separates you from the American dream. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/32 "2010-07-06T20:44:26Z")
Well, we could cut costs on that wall if we got some cheap labor to build it. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/33 "2010-07-06T20:46:19Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > Ah, my congressman. > > Interesting district. It’s liberal, but far from the most liberal district in California. One intersting thing is that has one of the highest percentage of Asians of any district outside of Hawaii. The city I live in is over 40% Asian. There are far more Asians than Latinos around here. Mine too. Plus, we have a very diverse population, with the biggest Afghan population in the US - and some awesome groceries. This thread would inspire me to donate money to his campaign, except he doesn’t need it. Minutemen are vigilante scum, so no problem there. Making fun of these buffoons is awesome. Too bad some the more polite congressmen didn’t do this kind of stuff to the teabaggers accusing Obama of being socialist and other such shite. All this and he’s an atheist also. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/34 "2010-07-06T21:37:20Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Well, we could cut costs on that wall if we got some cheap labor to build it. I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/35 "2010-07-06T22:15:35Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Sorry, [not](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illegal) [true](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/illegal). Contrary to popular belief, the dictionary is not the be-all, end-all of proper English. “The job of the dictionary is to document the language as it’s used.” -Merriam-Webster editor. It’s not our fault that fucktards misuse the language in pursuit of denigrating an entire class (and let’s face it, race) of people. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/36 "2010-07-07T02:06:10Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You have no idea who these trigger-happy yahoos even are, do you? > > BTW, where did your ancestors (or you) come from? There are no trigger-happy yahoos. Stark was just being an asshole with his brain-damaged comments about the Minutemen. And what does it matter where my ancestors came from? We’re talking about here and now, not 400 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/37 "2010-07-07T02:10:29Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > We should all stop for a moment and reflect on how utterly and amazingly stupid and uninformed Clothahump is. > > Okay? Everyone done? Good, you may now resume the thread. No, actually, Lobo, you should all stop for a moment and kiss my ass. I posted a thread about Stark acting like an idiot. It happened. There’s no denying it - he was stupid enough to do it and be videoed while he did it. And I was stupid enough to think that there still might be a few non-brain damaged people left here on the Dope. Boy, was I ever wrong about that, and I’ll freely admit it. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/38 "2010-07-07T02:15:45Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > There are no trigger-happy yahoos. Vigilante groups are that pretty much by definition. > [@](#): > > And what does it matter where my ancestors came from? We’re talking about here and now, not 400 years ago. It matters in terms of demonstrating your actual understanding of American values (remember those?). Unfortunately, you have proven that to be as minimal as your understanding of the facts of American history. It might help if you’d turn Hannity off once in a while. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/39 "2010-07-07T02:23:23Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > No, actually, Lobo, you should all stop for a moment and kiss my ass. Present the rump. Then based on my assessment of its kissability, I will render my verdict. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709/40 "2010-07-07T05:25:32Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > No, actually, Lobo, you should all stop for a moment and kiss my ass. > > I posted a thread about Stark acting like an idiot. It happened. There’s no denying it - he was stupid enough to do it and be videoed while he did it. And I was stupid enough to think that there still might be a few non-brain damaged people left here on the Dope. Boy, was I ever wrong about that, and I’ll freely admit it. Well, in a battle of wits between you and Stark, I’ll take Stark and give you three to one odds. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pete-stark-is-a-frickin-idiot/545709.md?page=3)