# Peter Dinklage Rips Disney For ‘Snow White’ Remake: ‘What The F\*\*k Are You Doing?!’ **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [January 25, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359 "2022-01-25T13:44:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/405 "2023-07-16T16:02:11Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > (Omigod Flounder is different!) Disney’s remaking _Animal House_? ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/406 "2023-07-16T16:02:56Z")
“Dinglehopper?” “Forget it, he’s rolling.” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/407 "2023-07-16T16:08:22Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > The caption says several are stand ins and not the actual actors. They are using a stand-in for Rachel Zegler because she “completed filming on the project in July 2022”. > **[“Politically Correct” ‘Snow White’ Photos Spark Backlash](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/07/those-politically-correct-snow-white-set-photos-are-fake-says-disney)** > > Photos posted by the ‘Daily Mail’ stirred up ire online Friday. So they have her performance in the can and now they are filming the rest of the cast with a stand-in actress to composite over later. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/408 "2023-07-16T16:11:55Z")
I think you are completely missing Dinklage’s point. It’s not about whether the character is good or evil. It’s about whether the character is a human being that the audience can empathize with. The dwarf in the game of thrones was a major point-of-view character. Like other human beings, he had good points and bad points. But you, the audience, identified with him, felt empathy for his plight, hoped he would succeed. The dwarves in “snow white” are background. In the Disney cartoon version, they are comic relief. Just look at the names (sneezy, sleepy, grumpy, etc.) They are “it”, not people that you might identify with. They are good, sure, but they are also easy to ridicule. Funny little men who serve others with no apparent goals of their own. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/409 "2023-07-16T16:18:30Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > They are “it”, not people that you might identify with. They are good, sure, but they are also easy to ridicule. Funny little men who serve others with no apparent goals of their own. Are the dwarfs/dwarves in _Snow White_ supposed to be short humans, or are they supposed to be a different species? I’m not sure if that is clear. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/410 "2023-07-16T16:19:22Z")
Snow White calls them “little men.” ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/411 "2023-07-16T16:43:13Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > They are using a stand-in for Rachel Zegler because she “completed filming on the project in July 2022”. > [@](#): > > The scenes pictured here featured two ‘stand-in’ extras, who were used to film additional photography. Maybe _one_ of those references the stand in Snow? > [@puzzlegal](#): > > I think you are completely missing Dinklage’s point. It’s not about whether the character is good or evil. It’s about whether the character is a human being that the audience can empathize with. The dwarf in the game of thrones was a major point-of-view character. Like other human beings, he had good points and bad points. But you, the audience, identified with him, felt empathy for his plight, hoped he would succeed. > > The dwarves in “snow white” are background. In the Disney cartoon version … Dinklage’s point is relevant if he somehow knew that the movie was going to be a note for note redo of the ancient classic Disney cartoon. Clearly this movie, to the dismay of some apparently, _has no intention of being such._ Could ANY movie with a dwarf character have _potential_ to be dehumanizing? Yes. Assuming it will be and _preemptive condemnation_ is however dumb. This movie may be crap. Time will tell if they make money off it or it flops. But what it won’t be is something that treats the Disney cartoon as sacred text, as anything more than a marketing tool. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/412 "2023-07-16T16:48:32Z")
So…the Dwarves in The Hobbitt? ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/413 "2023-07-16T16:50:06Z")
Snow White has the education of a scullery maid. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/414 "2023-07-16T17:23:39Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > The dwarves in “snow white” are background. In the Disney cartoon version, they are comic relief. Just look at the names (sneezy, sleepy, grumpy, etc.) They are “it”, not people that you might identify with. IMHO they’re too central to the plot to call them “background” or “comic relief.” True, they’re not realistic people, but neither is anybody else in the movie. It’s a fairy tale. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/415 "2023-07-16T17:26:43Z")
What Thudlow just said. If it’s a bad representation then it will be a bad movie, not a smear on the reputation of those hard working dwarves. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/416 "2023-07-16T17:56:09Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > Snow White has the education of a scullery maid. I think you’re confusing Snow White with Cinderella. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/417 "2023-07-16T18:21:08Z")
Yup. A scullery maid would perhaps be familiar with the world outside the castle. Snow was protected from knowledge of such things by a doting albeit lonely father. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/418 "2023-07-16T18:58:18Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > I think you’re confusing Snow White with Cinderella. Didn’t the Queen send her to work in the kitchens after her father died? Also, why was she the regent, anyway? Oh yeah - witch. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/419 "2023-07-16T19:04:59Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Didn’t the Queen send her to work in the kitchens after her father died? I don’t remember it that well, but I thought she was kicked out of the castle fairly soon after daddy died. But I could definitely be confused. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/420 "2023-07-16T19:51:01Z")
I don’t remember Snow White actually being a Princess, but I am getting old. I do remember her being kissed without her consent while she was asleep. Perhaps Disney has not come to the realization yet, despite a few failed attempts, that not every classic tale needs to be made into a live action film. Is Fantasia next? The Fox and the Hound? The Love Bug? Oh wait, that last one was live action. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/421 "2023-07-16T20:17:25Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Perhaps Disney has not come to the realization yet, despite a few failed attempts, that not every classic tale needs to be made into a live action film. I presume you are referencing Little Mermaid as a failed attempt? Opening week end was disappointing. Except that like Ariel it found its legs. > **[‘The Little Mermaid’ Swims Toward Mammoth Milestone at the Global Box Office](https://collider.com/the-little-mermaid-global-box-office-542-million/?newsletter_popup=1)** > > The mega-budget live-action adaptation is still making waves. A home run it was not but the studio likely is happy to have a solid stand up double. Exploiting the name recognition of a classic property does not make for a risk free play but it likely makes for a less risky gamble. My impression is that these live action remakes have a pretty decent track record of making profits. Checks. Yup. > **[10 Best Disney Live-Action Remakes, Ranked By Their Box Office Opening Weekend](https://www.cbr.com/best-disney-remakes-box-office-opening-weekend/#the-lion-king-191-8-million)** > > Between The Little Mermaid, The Lion King, and Cinderella, Disney has enjoyed several opening weekends at the box office with its live-action remakes. That’s why they keep doing it. They are, relatively, safe bets. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/422 "2023-07-16T20:26:45Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Is Fantasia next? What, you don’t want to see the dancing hippos sequence with photorealistic CGI hippos? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/423 "2023-07-16T20:30:46Z")
When I was a kid I had a Fisher-Price movie viewer with one (and only one) cartridge: a condensed version of [Lonesome Ghosts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonesome_Ghosts). So I’ll hold out for a live-action version of that. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/guW_5XoNZMU/hqdefault.jpg "Walt Disney's Lonesome Ghosts - Fisher-Price Movie Viewer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guW_5XoNZMU) > **[Fisher-Price Movie Viewer toys from the '70s let kids turn a handle to make...](https://clickamericana.com/toys-and-games/just-turn-a-handle-fisher-price-movie-viewer-toys-1973)** > > It's like going to the movies. Only better. With Fisher-Price Movie Viewer toys, kids could run short films all by themselves, just by turning a handle. In slow motion, speeded up or backwards. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/424 "2023-07-16T21:13:33Z")
To beat the dead horse (water based or other) here’s the list of ‘23’s top grossers to date. > **[2023 Worldwide Box Office - Box Office Mojo](https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/)** What’s not there? Almost anything not based off (exploiting/leveraging) nostalgia, a remake, or a sequel. Next to join the list? Leveraging the Barbie brand. Okay Elemental, a somewhat new thing (although it seems inspired by Adventure Time to me) is there, but with disappointing numbers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359.md?page=22)