# Peter Dinklage Rips Disney For ‘Snow White’ Remake: ‘What The F\*\*k Are You Doing?!’ **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [January 25, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359 "2022-01-25T13:44:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/425 "2023-07-16T21:20:28Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > I presume you are referencing Little Mermaid as a failed attempt? Opening week end was disappointing. > > Except that like Ariel it found its legs. It may, just, have made it’s money back. I’m not sure how that counts as a success. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/426 "2023-07-16T21:45:33Z")
Well,he thought she was dead. And magic was involved. Since it takes the kiss of love to wake her up. He didn’t know he was going to find her ‘dead’ and was moved to kiss her by grief. Its hardly outlandish. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/427 "2023-07-16T21:59:48Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > So…the Dwarves in The Hobbitt? The dwarves in the book, the Hobbit, are a little problematic. It’s an old book, and it’s a product of it’s time. It’s pretty good as books of that era go, honestly. I was really pissed at the treatment of Gimli in the LOTR movie, though. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/428 "2023-07-16T22:02:38Z")
Fairly few movies, especially of the Disney crowd, this year seem to be pulling that off. Even Indiana Jones disappoints. More to the point is the company it is keeping in the live action remake: 101 Dalmatians ($320 million), Cinderella ($543 million), Maleficent ($758 million), The Jungle Book ($966 million), and the billion-dollar-plus blockbusters — Aladdin , Alice in Wonderland, Beauty and the Beast, and The Lion King. There are live action flops (Pinocchio comes to mind) but not many have lost huge amounts and that likely helps getting a big investment greenlighted. And note: some of those successes were fairly faithful re-dos and some very complete re-imaginings. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/429 "2023-07-16T22:16:12Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Looks like they decided to go with “malicious compliance”. Yes, earlier I posted that the “dwarfism community” seems to be very angry that Dinklage- who has already got it made- opened his big fat mouth, as they would love a nice fat Disney check. > [@Broomstick](#): > > Is this like how they consulted with Black people while making _Song of the South?_ Because see how well that worked out… The main people who complained about that film never even saw it. Read “Who’s afraid of Song of the South” by Jim Korkis to get the real story. Not to mention that film was made in 1946, which is over 70 years ago. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > Have you seen the movie? Yes, and yeah, there are a few things that are -today-a little bit controversial, somne things could be called stereotypes. But it isnt racist at all. I mean, look at all the praise for _Gone with the Wind,_ which is racist as all fuck. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > I think you are completely missing Dinklage’s point. I didnt miss his point, nor did the “dwarfism community”- his point was “I got mine jack,” so I dont give a fuck if other members of the community get work. > [@Biffster](#): > > I don’t remember Snow White actually being a Princess, but I am getting old. I do remember her being kissed without her consent while she was asleep. She is, the Wicked Queen is her stepmother. And when a lifeguard does the “kiss of life” no one screams it isnt consensual. Not to mention they love each other, and if he didnt she’d rot and die. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > I was really pissed at the treatment of Gimli in the LOTR movie, though. After the two real comic relief characters left (Merry and Pippin) Jackson unwisely picked on Gimli a few times. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/430 "2023-07-16T22:44:34Z")
Since we’re getting quasi-political while remaining very polite: My biggest problem isn’t race-swapping (though i prefer if the production tries a little to make it make sense). It’s in order of annoyance: 1. “We want the show to reflect the world outside our door”. Whose door?? the vast vast majority of the world doesn’t look like that Benneton ad/ community theatre pic we’ve been talking about. 2. A failure to understand the theme of the show or just changing it so much that its isn’t even the base property. There’s no Prince Charming? MMMMM Snow White don’t need no man!!! What’s wrong with love FFS? You wanna tweak it? Throw in a trope-buster line…ok fine. But the worst offender was Peter Pan and Wendy. Girls in the Lost Boys? The book SPECIFICALLY says there are no girl Lost Boys because girls arn’t stupid enough to fall out of their prams. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/431 "2023-07-16T22:46:41Z")
_After the two real comic relief characters left (Merry and Pippin) Jackson unwisely picked on Gimli a few times._ My take overall was that he was a ‘laugh in the face of danger’, While strengthing his bond with Legolas. But YMMV ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/432 "2023-07-16T23:11:08Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > “We want the show to reflect the world outside our door”. Whose door?? the vast vast majority of the world doesn’t look like that Benneton ad/ community theatre pic we’ve been talking about. They seem to mean “the statistical average demographics for the US as a whole”. But of course the racial/ethic distribution in individual areas is much more lumpy than the national average. My area of rural South Carolina is well above 90% white, for example, while for the US as a whole it is less than 70%. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/433 "2023-07-16T23:15:50Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Yes, earlier I posted that the “dwarfism community” seems to be very angry THE dwarfism community? So they all feel this way? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/434 "2023-07-16T23:17:04Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > his point was “I got mine jack,” so I dont give a fuck if other members of the community get work. You really think this is his point? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/435 "2023-07-16T23:19:13Z")
I believe it’s true that the community of second-tier dwarf actors would, by and large, rather get a role than not get a role. I think most dwarfs aren’t actors at all, and are more interested in how dwarfs are portrayed than in how many dwarfs get acting jobs. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/436 "2023-07-16T23:21:11Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I think most dwarfs aren’t actors at all, and are more interested in how dwarfs are portrayed than in how many dwarfs get acting jobs. Yes.   ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/437 "2023-07-16T23:46:03Z")
I think I haven’t a clue what “most” think, neither do any of us, but I do not accept Mr. Dinklage as spokesperson for the whole. If I had to make a WAG I’d guess most are not so invested in Hollywood upcoming releases and would wait to see what something _was_ before condemning it for what it _might_ or might not be. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/438 "2023-07-16T23:52:56Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > > [@puzzlegal](#): > > > > The dwarves in “snow white” are background. In the Disney cartoon version, they are comic relief. Just look at the names (sneezy, sleepy, grumpy, etc.) They are “it”, not people that you might identify with. ⁢ > > IMHO they’re too central to the plot to call them “background” or “comic relief.” True, they’re not realistic people, but neither is anybody else in the movie. It’s a fairy tale. ⁢ They’re important as a group, as in someone has to find Snow White have her stay with them, and someone needs to be sad when bad things happen to her. But they’re not important at all as individuals. They are used primarily as comic relief outside of what I described above. They each have a single characteristic which is used for comedy. You could replace all seven of them with maybe 2 or three people out in the woods and the plot wouldn’t really change. I do also think Disney doesn’t really treat the Dwarfs as quite human. Unlike other animated humans, they aren’t face characters. They’re played in a full suit, like the animated animals and mythical/magical creatures. So I can understand the idea that they aren’t really treated like people, and thus why Dinklage might object to that. That said, I could also think that Dinklage’s goal was just to push Disney to not do it like that again, encouraging them to make them fuller characters who matter. As for the remake itself: Disney does two different kinds: the one that is mostly faithful to the original, and the one that is deliberately trying to be something different. They seem to have decided on the latter for this. And, yes, this could be in large part due to Dinklage’s objection. Waiting until the movie came out would not allow his influence. And this is clearly something he feels passionate about. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/439 "2023-07-16T23:56:40Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > I think I haven’t a clue what “most” think, neither do any of us, but I do not accept Mr. Dinklage as spokesperson for the whole. If I had to make a WAG I’d guess most are not so invested in Hollywood upcoming releases and would wait to see what something _was_ before condemning it for what it _might_ or might not be. That’s fair. But as BigT says, Dinklage had influence at the start, and not after it’s out. And while i have no idea how the typical dwarf will take this movie that I’ve never seen and know little about, i suspect that most find the original cartoon pretty cringey. I certainly would. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/440 "2023-07-17T00:04:42Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Are the dwarfs/dwarves in _Snow White_ supposed to be short humans, or are they supposed to be a different species? I’m not sure if that is clear. > [@BigT](#): > > I do also think Disney doesn’t really treat the Dwarfs as quite human. There’s a fair amount of discussion upthread (from when the thread first appeared a year and a half ago) over whether the dwarfs (in the original animated film) are intended to be human beings or nonhuman mythic/folkloric creatures. I’m inclined toward the latter, though it’s been a long time since I’ve seen the film. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/441 "2023-07-17T00:13:08Z")
I interpreted what he said as the original is so problematic that it should never be remade at all despite how ground breaking it may have been, like Birth of a Nation or something. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/442 "2023-07-17T00:21:50Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > They’re played in a full suit, like the animated animals and mythical/magical creatures. Yes, not to mention their big pink clown noses. They do look more like creatures than humans. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/443 "2023-07-17T00:32:36Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > I interpreted what he said as the original is so problematic that it should never be remade at all despite how ground breaking it may have been, like Birth of a Nation or something. It’s a pretty horrible story, if you think about it. ---
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> [@Pavelb1](#): > > Well,he thought she was dead. And magic was involved. Since it takes the kiss of love to wake her up. So if there is no Prince Charming this time around, how will she come back from “the dead”? Something about this version feels a little off to me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359.md?page=23)