# Peter Dinklage Rips Disney For ‘Snow White’ Remake: ‘What The F\*\*k Are You Doing?!’ **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [January 25, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359 "2022-01-25T13:44:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/545 "2023-07-22T00:07:12Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > He secretly ogling her at the well and then started joining her song. They sang a song and danced. Maybe polite cartoon musical metaphor, like a train going in the tunnel? I wouldn’t necessarily go that far, as I doubt the implication is that two teens had sex. But she is singing “Someday, my prince will come,” and then this prince joins her, and she accepts this. In that context, the dancing implies romantic feelings. And that, if the Queen didn’t intervene, they likely would have started dating. The story also goes out of its way to say that only true love’s kiss could resolve the spell, so he wasn’t just infatuated with her. We are supposed to believe that he loved her. And, well, that sort of love at first sight is pretty common in these types of tales. I personally like that they had the prince meet her and then later go out looking for her, rather than to merely chance upon her. Maybe it’s not as much as we’d want in a story today, but it does seem progressive for the time. There was at least some indication of romance before the kiss, rather than him just kissing her for being beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/546 "2023-07-22T00:36:00Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And, well, that sort of love at first sight is pretty common in these types of tales. I think Disney added that. In the original, i think he’s just infatuated with the beautiful corpse, until it’s dropped, the apple falls out, and she comes back to life. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/547 "2023-07-22T01:01:13Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > In the original What’s “the original,” anyway? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/548 "2023-07-22T01:42:18Z")
Fair. I’m treating the book the Grimm Brothers published as “original”, but of course it’s not. Still, I think the whole “true love” trope was added by Disney. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/549 "2023-07-22T14:04:49Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I doubt the implication is that two teens had sex. But she is singing “Someday, my prince will come,” Am I juvenile that I sniggered here? Yes. > [@BigT](#): > > that sort of love at first sight is pretty common in these types of tales. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > I’m treating the book the Grimm Brothers published as “original”, but of course it’s not. Still, I think the whole “true love” trope was added by Disney. The Grimms’ version nearer to the source versions anyway, and love at first sight is definitely more the Disney princess trope than those types of tales. Again the old tales are dark heady stuff articulating psychodynamic fears and issues of both children and parents. Definitely for kids but not Disney. And would not go over well in today’s movie environment as child entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2023, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/550 "2023-07-23T07:21:21Z")
Well try as I might, I can’t find a clip of Geena Davis on SNL singing “Someday my prints will come.” ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/551 "2023-07-26T15:56:26Z")
Posting this here because it seemed relevant to the discussion – an actor with dwarfism has criticized the casting of Hugh Grant as an Oompa Loompa in _Wonka_. This quote really stood out: “A lot of people, myself included, argue that dwarfs should be offered everyday roles in dramas and soaps, but we aren’t getting offered those roles. One door is being closed but they have forgotten to open the next one.” > **[Hugh Grant’s casting in 'Wonka' criticised by actor with dwarfism](https://www.nme.com/news/film/hugh-grants-casting-wonka-criticised-by-actor-with-dwarfism-3473659)** > > The prequel is scheduled to be released in December ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/552 "2023-07-26T19:29:09Z")
Frankly, I though casting Grant as an Oompa-Loompa was weird. I kept wondering why they didn’t use a dwarf actor - I mean, the CGI to shrink Grant would work just as well for an actual dwarf, and it’s a strong tradition with cinema Wonka. Casting Grant actually took me out of the fantasy. The opposite of what you’d want to have happen. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/553 "2023-07-26T19:39:15Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Frankly, I though casting Grant as an Oompa-Loompa was weird. I kept wondering why they didn’t use a dwarf actor Looks like it is a significant enough role that they want a “name” actor, and have the joke be his snooty proper Britishness. (Starting around 2:06) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/otNh9bTjXWg/maxresdefault.jpg "WONKA | Official Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otNh9bTjXWg) ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/554 "2023-07-26T20:19:07Z")
This is the first I’ve heard of this prequel and Hugh Grant’s bit in the trailer is what will probably get me into the theater instead of waiting for it to stream. And I’m not really much of a Hugh Grant fan. And more to the topic of the thread, Grant as depicted is in a role that even an actor with dwarfism couldn’t pull off without special effects. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/555 "2023-07-26T21:49:33Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > > About a decade ago, there was a [show](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life%27s_Too_Short_(TV_series)) starring [Warwick Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwick_Davis) about how tough it is for dwarf actors to find roles. > > Life’s Too Short. That was one of Ricky Gervais and Steven Merchant’s creations. The one where Liam Neeson wanted to get into comedy (standup, anecdotes, that sort of thing) was piss your pants funny. Warwick headed up a talent agency for dwarves but kept keeping all the good parts for himself. And they even managed to predict the Grant/Wonka uproar, only it was Johnny Depp being cast as Rumpelstiltskin. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/556 "2023-07-26T22:34:13Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Looks like it is a significant enough role that they want a “name” actor, and have the joke be his snooty proper Britishness Warwick Davis wasn’t available? ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/557 "2023-07-27T05:26:16Z")
So…“Fairest in the land”…I always thought it meant “Most beautiful”…not, whitest. Was I wrong? I mean thats the joke in the Bugs Bunny cartoon that the witch wants to make sure she’s the ugliest and not the fairest. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/558 "2023-07-27T06:27:06Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > So…“Fairest in the land”…I always thought it meant “Most beautiful”…not, whitest. Was I wrong? I mean…in most cases, I would agree that “fair” means “attractive”, not literally “white”, but in this case, it is right there in the name. ETA: just checked the original German title: “Schneewittchen”. That word means “A girl or woman with black or dark brown hair and pale skin.” So, yeah, it this case it really does explicitly mean “whitest”. > **[Schneewittchen - Wiktionary, the free dictionary](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Schneewittchen)** ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/559 "2023-07-27T06:47:43Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I mean…in most cases, I would agree that “fair” means “attractive”, not literally “white”, but in this case, it is right there in the name. > > ETA: just checked the original German title: “Schneewittchen”. That word means “A girl or woman with black or dark brown hair and pale skin.” So, yeah, it this case it really does explicitly mean “whitest”. Nope, “fairest” just means “most beautiful” in this context, at least in [the Grimms’ version of the tale](https://www.grimmstories.com/en/grimm_fairy-tales/snow-white). You are right that Snow White is originally given that name because of her coloring, but the magic mirror is judging the competition for beauty, not specifically for paleness. > [@](#): > > It was the middle of winter, and the snow-flakes were falling like feathers from the sky, and a queen sat at her window working, and her embroidery-frame was of ebony. And as she worked, gazing at times out on the snow, she pricked her finger, and there fell from it three drops of blood on the snow. And when she saw how bright and red it looked, she said to herself, “Oh that I had a child as white as snow, as red as blood, and as black as the wood of the embroidery frame!” Not very long after she had a daughter, with a skin as white as snow, lips as red as blood, and hair as black as ebony, and she was named Snow-white. And when she was born the queen died. After a year had gone by the king took another wife, a beautiful woman, but proud and overbearing, and she could not bear to be surpassed in beauty by any one. She had a magic looking-glass, and she used to stand before it, and look in it, and say, > > “Looking-glass upon the wall, > Who is fairest of us all?” > > And the looking-glass would answer, > > “You are fairest of them all.” > > And she was contented, for she knew that the looking-glass spoke the truth. Now, Snow-white was growing prettier and prettier, and when she was seven years old she was as beautiful as day, far more so than the queen herself. Disregarding for the moment the ubiquitous racist entanglement of beauty with racially Caucasian phenotypes in such tales, and the issue of the extent to which a nonwhite woman could ever have been considered conventionally “beautiful” in that historical context… …the point is that Snow White ends up winning the title not because she’s paler than her stepmother but because she keeps getting prettier. (I had not previously realized that the fairy tale extends this nonconsensual kingdom-wide judging of female beauty to “contestants” as young as seven years old. Ew.) ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/560 "2023-07-27T07:05:07Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Warwick Davis wasn’t available? Or Deep Roy apparently. He was ALL the Oompa-loompas in the Tim Burton version. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/561 "2023-07-27T08:08:22Z")
If they wanted a “name” actor there are short-statured actors that are well known names. There’s no reason they couldn’t have one of them play the Oompa-Loompa(s). ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/562 "2023-07-27T14:34:32Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > ETA: just checked the original German title: “Schneewittchen”. That word means “A girl or woman with black or dark brown hair and pale skin.” So, yeah, it this case it really does explicitly mean “whitest”. > > [Schneewittchen - Wiktionary, the free dictionary](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Schneewittchen) Interesting thing I learned from that link: I already knew that there existed two separate fairy tales featuring characters named Snow White: the “Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs” that we’ve been talking about here, and “Snow White and Rose Red.” What I just learned is that they slightly different names in German to distinguish them: > [@](#): > > [Partial calque](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#partial_calque) of [German Low German](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_German) _[Sneewittken](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Sneewittken&action=edit&redlink=1)_ , from _[Snee](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Snee#Low_German)_ (“snow”) + _[witt](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/witt#Low_German)_ (“white”) + _[-ken](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ken#Low_German)_ . The [Brothers Grimm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brothers_Grimm) only adapted the diminutive suffix to _[-chen](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/-chen#German)_ , thus entitling the tale _Sneewittchen_ . Over time the first word also came to be adapted to _[Schnee](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Schnee#German)_ . Full calquing to _[Schneeweißchen](https://en.m.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Schneewei%C3%9Fchen&action=edit&redlink=1)_ , however, was hindered by the fact that it already occurred in an unrelated tale called _[Schneeweißchen und Rosenrot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow-White_and_Rose-Red)_ . ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/563 "2023-08-06T03:26:18Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > If they wanted a “name” actor there are short-statured actors that are well known names. There’s no reason they couldn’t have one of them play the Oompa-Loompa(s). In the trailer he’s not a short-statured person. He appears to be well under 2 feet tall. Like Elf on a Shelf sized. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/564 "2023-08-06T07:40:47Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > > [@Broomstick](#): > > > > If they wanted a “name” actor there are short-statured actors that are well known names. There’s no reason they couldn’t have one of them play the Oompa-Loompa(s). ⁢ > > In the trailer he’s not a short-statured person. He appears to be well under 2 feet tall. Like Elf on a Shelf sized. ⁢ He’s proportioned like a dwarf, though. Sure, he’s smaller than a real dwarf, as you say. But that’s something you could do with greenscreen. The actual CGI involved seems to be about making him look like a dwarf. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359.md?page=29)