# Peter Dinklage Rips Disney For ‘Snow White’ Remake: ‘What The F\*\*k Are You Doing?!’

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**Created:** [January 25, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359 "2022-01-25T13:44:44Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/585 "2023-08-22T14:18:02Z")

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> [Mel Brooks]Moichendising![/Mel Brooks]

Merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from the movie is made. Snow White-the T-shirt, Snow White-the Coloring Book, Snow White-the Lunch box, Snow White-the Breakfast Cereal, Snow White-the Flame Thrower. The kids love this one.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/586 "2023-08-22T15:16:58Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> [Telegraph article] ’ My dad and Walt Disney would be turning in their graves over woke Snow White…
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> Son of original film’s director accuses Disney studio bosses of ‘insulting’ the 1937 classic and ‘destroying’ his father’s creation…

Given that Walt Disney was quite racist, I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing if he wouldn’t have liked the changes.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/587 "2023-08-22T18:30:06Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> You have to wonder how well that is working out for them. It seems to be getting panned already.

There are many movies that get panned before anyone has ever seen them. Given that the reason for these pre-emptive negative reviews can have nothing to do with the quality of the unseen movie they tend to not be all that predictive of how it works out.

This may be a dog. Dunno. May be hilarious. Dunno. May be a flop may be a hit. It will however definitely get more consideration by more families to be looked at because it is called Snow White than if it wasn’t.

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Other the other hand a huge number of people will automatically refuse to even consider the movie because of the name–they saw Snow White when they were kids and have zero interest in a movie with that type plot.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/589 "2023-08-22T19:12:59Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> > [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> > You have to wonder how well that is working out for them. It seems to be getting panned already.
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> There are many movies that get panned before anyone has ever seen them. Given that the reason for these pre-emptive negative reviews can have nothing to do with the quality of the unseen movie they tend to not be all that predictive of how it works out.

Yeah, the negative audience reviews may sink this movie, just like they are sinking _Barbie_ (just under $1.3B world-wide box office 5 weeks into its run). 🙄

> **[Barbie appears to be the latest female-led movie getting review bombed](https://www.avclub.com/barbie-review-bombing-1850683825)**
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> Barbie appears to be the latest female-led movie getting review bombed

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/590 "2023-08-22T19:35:50Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Other the other hand a huge number of people will automatically refuse to even consider the movie because of the name–they saw Snow White when they were kids and have zero interest in a movie with that type plot.

Which of those groups do you think is larger: parents who will take their kids to see the movie because it is tied to Snow White despite a few changes, or old white guys who _totally_ would have seen Snow White but now won’t because it’s woke?

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
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> [@DSeid](#):
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> This may be a dog. Dunno. May be hilarious. Dunno. May be a flop may be a hit.

But what it very clearly _isn’t_, on the basis of what the actress herself has said, is a remake of “Snow White and the 7 dwarfs”.

It shares a name, most likely so it stands a chance of making some money but the way that Zegler describes it it sounds like they took all the intrinsic story elements of the original and ditched them. I’m not sure what you have left _but_ the name.

Sure, it might be great but first impressions aren’t promising.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/592 "2023-08-22T20:10:31Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Given that Walt Disney was quite racist, I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing if he wouldn’t have liked the changes.

Right? Old Walt is already rolling in his grave because the company he created has a Jewish CEO, taking the dwarfs out of Snow White is barely gonna impact his RPMs

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> Yeah, the negative audience reviews may sink this movie, just like they are sinking _Barbie_ (just under $1.3B world-wide box office 5 weeks into its run). 🙄

True, there was a lot of pre-release slagging-off of Top Gun - Maverick and _that_ seemed to do pretty well but then there was also the pre-release slagging-off of both Indy 5 and The Little Mermaid which ended up being fairly accurate.

We won’t know until it hits the screens. There’s no accounting for audience reaction.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/594 "2023-08-22T23:12:28Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> But what it very clearly _isn’t_, on the basis of what the actress herself has said, is a remake of “Snow White and the 7 dwarfs”.
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> It shares a name, most likely so it stands a chance of making some money but …

So agreement then: they are using the name for marketing, and the tactic might even help it do better than it otherwise would.

FWIW lest we think using familiar names to sell stories without the familiar elements is a new creation of a manipulative cynical entertainment industry …

I am not an opera fan but my wife I still joined another couple Sunday night for “Lyric in the Park” in which the Lyric Opera puts on a show of the music (no staging) of some of this season’s shows at The Pritzker Pavilion in Millennium Park. We picnicked on the Great Lawn.

Main bit? Portions of Rossini’s Cinderella. A version with no step mother or any mother. More a doofus of a step dad. No magic. Glass slippers, any slipper, out, replaced by bracelets, because of fear that showing ankle might offend someone. No fairy god mother but an old tutor. The prince is in disguise. A whole bit about “a pallid seaman” who comes ashore once every seven years looking for a worthy wife? … Really fairly little about it resembling the Cinderella story that it shared a name with. Maybe he should have just told a new story if it is going to be so different?

But people knew that story. Marketing!!.

But even with no ankles Rossini’s opera has had legs.

This is a long tradition

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/595 "2023-08-22T23:39:54Z")

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All depends whether there’s a story to tell. Barbie has one, with astute observations regarding feminism and the patriarchy, and it handles them in a clever way. As for Snow White, I think half the draw came from the Seven Dwarfs as much as the Disney princess, so by getting rid of that element, how much story is left? Who wants to see the seven “magical creatures”? Peter Dinklage’s comments aside, there’s a lot of dwarf actors that would have been looking forward to this opportunity. Lord knows, there aren’t a lot of others. I’ve got a bad feeling about this.

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I don’t know for certain, but I think _Khazad_ was completely concocted by JRRT.

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> All depends whether there’s a story to tell. Barbie has one

Did you know it did while it was in production, before anyone had seen it?

Maybe you did but the most I heard about it was it’s marketing behemoth and something about Barbie coming into the real world, and the toy/cartoon coming into the real world dimension is an old trope.

Whatever was half the attraction of the old Disney cartoon had little to do with the source story. And I’d put most of the attraction to the music and the animation anyway. Not the story.

And if a “remake” makes it, it won’t be because of what made the original a success. It will be it doing something else original and creative that people enjoy. Fail at doing that, and fail they may, Disney’s recent track record ain’t a string of home runs, and it flops. Succeed and few will care about Snow’s complexion or the heights of her funny friends.

> [@Biffster](#):
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> there’s a lot of dwarf actors that would have been looking forward to this opportunity. Lord knows, there aren’t a lot of others.

Disney has no obligation to be dwarf actor affirmative action. And personally I would rather see good actors who are very short people get roles in which they just happen to be very short people rather than their being that be the point of the character.

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> We won’t know until it hits the screens

Exactly, which is why it’s completely pointless to talk about how it’s getting panned already.

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Given that Walt Disney was quite racist,

No he wasnt.

> **[Fact-Checking the Age-Old Rumors of Walt Disney’s Dark Side](https://www.vulture.com/2013/12/walt-disney-anti-semitism-racism-sexism-frozen-head.html)**
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> Was he an anti-Semite? Racist? Or cryogenically frozen?

Sure he was born in 1901 in the Midwest. His views today would be old fashioned and hardly “woke”. Some of his cartoons- which of course he didnt do every bit of- contain some stereotypes that were common for the period in which they were made.

I mean, I guess you can say that every white man born back then was a racist- sorta.

But not “quite racist”- somewhat _less_ racist for his time.

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Did you read your own cite? My grandfather was a white man of that time, and he somehow didn’t talk about n\*\*\*\*\*r-piles. And he didn’t run a company that refused to hire minorities.

I guess we all have different levels of racism we’re willing to tolerate.

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> So agreement then: they are using the name for marketing, and the tactic might even help it do better than it otherwise would.

That is a possibility

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Exactly, which is why it’s completely pointless to talk about how it’s getting panned already.

People do lots of things that are pointless but are fun to do anyway.

No harm in talking about criticism or praise ahead of release as long as people are open to revising their opinion if/when they see it.

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Did you read your own cite?..And he didn’t run a company that refused to hire minorities.

Nor did Disney. In fact

> **[At 81, Disney's First African-American Animator Is Still In The Studio](https://www.npr.org/2016/08/26/491370725/at-81-disneys-first-african-american-animator-is-still-in-the-studio)**
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> First hired in the 1950s, Floyd Norman is still drawing. "Creative people don't hang it up," he says. "We don't walk away, we don't want to sit in a lawn chair. ... We want to continue to work. "

Yeah, that was a nasty little term, reported by one person from one meeting.

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Peter said he’s never had a dream with dwarves in it. I don’t remember if I had one either. Interesting topic.

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