# Peter Dinklage Rips Disney For ‘Snow White’ Remake: ‘What The F\*\*k Are You Doing?!’ **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [January 25, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359 "2022-01-25T13:44:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/705 "2023-08-28T16:47:49Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Absolutely, and by the same token if someone can’t grasp the distinction between “non-consensual kiss” and “kissing a loved one goodbye” they are equally underprepared. No, that’s an entirely different token, and not at all related to the thing I’m disagreeing about. That’s a difference in moral values and the mechanics of consent as portrayed in the media. “Why are you complaining about that, and not the murders,” which demonstrates a fundamental failure in understanding how narratives work. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/706 "2023-08-28T16:57:15Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > No, that’s an entirely different token, and not at all related to the thing I’m disagreeing about. That’s a difference in moral values and the mechanics of consent as portrayed in the media. “Why are you complaining about that, and not the murders,” which demonstrates a fundamental failure in understanding how narratives work. And being concerned about someone kissing a dead loved one goodbye is a fundamental failure to understand how humans work and a deeply idiotic thing to be concerned about. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/707 "2023-08-28T17:02:00Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > a dead loved one “A dead loved one”=“someone you sang a duet with about a year ago”. I’m not sure I’m the one failing to understand how humans work. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/708 "2023-08-28T17:03:00Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > And being concerned about someone kissing a dead loved one goodbye is a fundamental failure to understand how humans work and a deeply idiotic thing to be concerned about. Which, again, is not what I was talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/709 "2023-08-28T17:05:38Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > “A dead loved one”=“someone you sang a duet with about a year ago”. I’m not sure I’m the one failing to understand how humans work. That is misrepresentation of what happened in the film. You dismiss it as merely singing a song, the film makes it clear that it was love at first sight. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/710 "2023-08-28T17:15:38Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > That is misrepresentation of what happened in the film. it isn’t tho I stand by what I said. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/711 "2023-08-28T17:22:41Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > it isn’t tho > > I stand by what I said. Ok, if that is what you took from the film then we’ll leave it there. Others are free to watch it and decide. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/712 "2023-08-28T17:40:44Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > > > That is misrepresentation of what happened in the film. ⁢ > > it isn’t tho > > I stand by what I said. ⁢ You can stand by it, but it’s a bad interpretation. The film does clearly present the prince as her true love, and has them falling in love in that scene. You can argue that it happens too fast. You can say that the genre that allows this type of shorthand is bad. Disney themselves seems to that now. But saying it was “just a song” ignores the meaning that is being offered both by the author and in the text. It has the same illiterate tone as your textspeak. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/713 "2023-08-28T17:58:54Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > But saying it was “just a song” ignores the meaning that is being offered both by the author and in the text. It has the same illiterate tone as your textspeak. How fortunate, then, that I didn’t say “just a song.” My interpretation is in the context of children watching this work and inferring lessons about relationships, consent, and agency from it, and I don’t like the lessons likely to be inferred. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/714 "2023-08-28T18:04:13Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > [@BigT](#): > > > > But saying it was “just a song” ignores the meaning that is being offered both by the author and in the text. It has the same illiterate tone as your textspeak. ⁢ > > How fortunate, then, that I didn’t say “just a song.” My interpretation is in the context of children watching this work and inferring lessons about relationships, consent, and agency from it, and I don’t like the lessons likely to be inferred. ⁢ You said, and I quote: “someone you sang a duet with about a year ago." In that post, you reduced it to just singing, which is what @Novelty_Bobble was replying to, saying that was incorrect. If you now admit that was an oversimplification, then I don’t see how you are in conflict. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/715 "2023-08-28T18:06:56Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > If you now admit that was an oversimplification, then I don’t see how you are in conflict. I stand by what I said and am not interested in parsing your paraphrase. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/716 "2023-08-28T18:16:11Z")
Its almost as if this is a fantasy fairy tale with tropes of true love and magic and destiny. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/717 "2023-08-28T20:01:38Z")
It’s almost as if this is a creepy story. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/718 "2023-08-28T20:20:52Z")
Why not both? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/719 "2023-08-29T01:05:59Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The film does clearly present the prince as her true love, and has them falling in love in that scene. You can argue that it happens too fast. You can say that the genre that allows this type of shorthand is bad. The film is only 83 minutes long. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/720 "2023-08-29T06:19:59Z")
My remake will have a years-long romance montage! At least long enough that the 14-year-old Snow White will age to some more acceptable age… ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/721 "2023-08-29T06:31:25Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > I think the desire to paint the Prince’s kiss as something that should also be condemned is idiotic in the extreme. A point of view that can only be held by someone who has either not seen or not understood the original film. I think the notion that someone can be brought back to life with a kiss is idiotic in the extreme. It’s sort of like, I dunno, kissing a famous soccer player on the lips and expecting her to be impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/722 "2023-08-29T06:54:31Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I think the notion that someone can be brought back to life with a kiss is idiotic in the extreme. This is a film with talking mirrors and magic (wait until you see the one about a time-travelling Delorean). Think of this in this way, In a fantasy universe where life-giving kisses are possible, the prince is doing the right thing is he not? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/723 "2023-08-29T07:13:57Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Think of this in this way, In a fantasy universe where life-giving kisses are possible, the prince is doing the right thing is he not? Point taken. But I’m not sure that non-consensual kisses are okay is the message we want to send to young people. Just look at the World Cup women’s team. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/724 "2023-08-29T12:57:20Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I think the notion that someone can be brought back to life with a kiss is idiotic in the extreme. > **[The Origin of the Magical Cliché: True Love’s Kiss](https://bookstr.com/article/the-origin-of-the-magical-cliche-true-loves-kiss/)** > > Most of us grew up learning about the power of true love’s kiss, but few of us know where it actually came from. Read on to learn about the origin of this magical cliché. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359.md?page=37)