# Peter Dinklage Rips Disney For ‘Snow White’ Remake: ‘What The F\*\*k Are You Doing?!’ **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [January 25, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359 "2022-01-25T13:44:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/865 "2023-11-01T16:52:17Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > His own person who has succeeded in the same industry on his own terms. If he has advice or opinions, they count more than some guy lamenting the loss of some Gnome #3 roles. Because they come from experience of doing just that. I think that “some guy” gets to speak for himself rather than having someone else do it for him or have presumed by others that someone else can speak for him. > [@MrDibble](#): > > I’m aware. Then we agree that there are reasonable criticisms to be made of what Dinklage said and the effect that it would have? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/866 "2023-11-01T17:14:53Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > He can speak for himself and have his own opinion and that should be given just the same weight as any other dwarf actor. He doesn’t have any special insight or wisdom that would mean he speaks for all dwarfs or dwarf actors. He may not have any special insight speaking to all dwarfs, but i think he really does have special insight speaking to dwarf actors. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/867 "2023-11-01T17:28:40Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > I think that “some guy” gets to speak for himself He did - and he sounded like an uninformed idiot. Of course, at no point did Dinklage say “My name is the Dinklage, I speak for the dwarfs”, so that whole argument is a strawman, anyway. > [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Then we agree that there are reasonable criticisms to be made of what Dinklage said and the effect that it would have? I said I’m aware of them, I didn’t say I agree with them. None of the criticisms of Dinklage’s statements I’ve seen have been reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/868 "2023-11-01T17:46:43Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Of course, at no point did Dinklage say “My name is the Dinklage, I speak for the dwarfs”, so that whole argument is a strawman, anyway. I’ve never said or implied that Dinklage said that. I am saying that there is an issue with others presuming that he does and so making decisions based on that that negatively impact other dwarf actors. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/869 "2023-11-01T17:48:33Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > He may not have any special insight speaking to all dwarfs, but i think he really does have special insight speaking to dwarf actors. I don’t. I think the other dwarf actors know their own mind and their own wants and needs better than Dinklage does. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/870 "2023-11-01T18:22:23Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > I don’t. You don’t think the most successful dwarf actor working today has any useful insights into being a dwarf actor? ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/871 "2023-11-01T18:36:02Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > You don’t think the most successful dwarf actor working today has any useful insights into being a dwarf actor? What I said was… > [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > He doesn’t have any special insight or wisdom that would mean he speaks for all dwarfs or dwarf actors. I assume you agree with that. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/872 "2023-11-01T18:45:44Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > I assume you agree with that. I agree with this: > [@puzzlegal](#): > > He may not have any special insight speaking to all dwarfs, but i think he really does have special insight speaking to dwarf actors. Which you said you don’t agree with. So, I’ll ask again: do you really think the most successful dwarf actor working today doesn’t have any special insight into being a dwarf actor? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/873 "2023-11-01T18:49:20Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > He doesn’t have any special insight or wisdom that would mean he speaks **for** all dwarfs or dwarf actors. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > i think he really does have special insight speaking **to** dwarf actors. [emphasis added in both] The preposition is critical. Someone who’s broken ground in a field and who has worked in the field for decades and who’s the single best-known worker in their field has special insight, and if I’m in that field, I’m going to pay attention to them when they speak **to** me. But that doesn’t mean they speak **for** me. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/874 "2023-11-01T18:58:54Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > do you really think the most successful dwarf actor working today doesn’t have any special insight into being a dwarf actor? That specific question has no interest for me. What he knows personally about his experience as a dwarf actor was not the point I was making when puzzlegal responded to me. I repeat. > [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > He can speak for himself and have his own opinion and that should be given just the same weight as any other dwarf actor. He doesn’t have any special insight or wisdom that would mean he speaks for all dwarfs or dwarf actors. and > [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > I think the other dwarf actors know their own mind and their own wants and needs better than Dinklage does. He doesn’t know the minds of other dwarf actors and being the most successful dwarf actor doesn’t give him the ability to do so. In fact being such an outlier may well make his points _less_ relevant when talking about the general population of dwarf actors. If you want to challenge me on those specific points then do so. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/875 "2023-11-01T19:06:33Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > The preposition is critical. Then clearly puzzlegal has missed the relevance of the preposition that I used. And I missed the fact that the “for” in my post became a “to” in puzzlegal’s Had I noticed it I would have said that I wasn’t interested in that question, it wasn’t relevant to the point I was making. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/876 "2023-11-01T19:09:52Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > He can speak for himself and have his own opinion and that should be given just the same weight as any other dwarf actor. Does this hold true for other professions? Should Jane Goodall’s opinion on primate behavior be given the same weight as a primatologist’s who’s just entering the field? Should Sam Altman’s opinion on the promises of AI be given the same weight as any employee’s involved in the creation of LLMs? I have a buddy who works in local theater and has occasionally gotten small speaking parts on historical dramas; if he disagrees on the the state of the television industry with Timothy Olyphant, would you give their opinions the same weight? I mean, maybe you do; but that’d be such an unusual way to treat opinions that it’s far outside the scope of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/877 "2023-11-01T19:19:35Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Does this hold true for other professions? Should Jane Goodall’s opinion on primate behavior be given the same weight as a primatologist’s who’s just entering the field? When talking about what Dinklage said we aren’t talking about a body of empirical facts wholly divorced from personal preference, needs and wants. He doesn’t hold any equivalent expert knowledge regarding what others in that profession, junior or not, should want to do or choose to do. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/878 "2023-11-01T19:20:38Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > When talking about what Dinklage said we aren’t talking about a body of empirical facts …right. We’re talking about _opinions._ ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/879 "2023-11-01T19:21:51Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > …right. We’re talking about _opinions._ and opinions on personal preferences, wants and needs are necessarily personal are they not? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/880 "2023-11-01T19:22:36Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > and opinions on personal preferences, wants and needs are necessarily personal are they not? Good gravy. We’re talking about opinions about the film industry and its relationship with dwarfs as actors and as characters. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/881 "2023-11-01T19:26:06Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > We’re talking about opinions about the film industry and its relationship with dwarfs as actors and as characters. On which individual personal opinion will vary, yes? Dinklage’s own take is his and his alone. Others may take a very different and equally valid view. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/882 "2023-11-01T19:26:20Z")
…and we’re done. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/883 "2023-11-01T19:39:05Z")
I don’t think Little people like being called dwarfs. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/884 "2023-11-01T19:50:56Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I don’t think Little people like being called dwarfs. The language to use here is kind of tricky. Certainly some folks with skin in the game call themselves “dwarfs.” Others call themselves “little people.” From the [Little People of America](https://www.lpaonline.org/faq-#Midget) site: > [@](#): > > Such terms as dwarf, little person, LP, and person of short stature are all acceptable, but most people would rather be referred to by their name than by a label. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359.md?page=45)