# Peter Dinklage Rips Disney For ‘Snow White’ Remake: ‘What The F\*\*k Are You Doing?!’ **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [January 25, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359 "2022-01-25T13:44:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2025, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1125 "2025-03-25T22:58:06Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > I was unclear – “modern classic” in the sense of “_every parent of a toddler has it in steady rotation_”. And i answered- “Nope”. I said the closest was Live action Jungle Book. The kids I knew watched _The Princess Bride_ over and over and the _Emperor’s new groove_. They had memorized most of both. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1126 "2025-03-25T23:37:07Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > Maybe Disney timed it well. They aren’t a huge media empire for nothing. 2023 had been a bad year for Disney with a series of flops. Indiana Jones. The Marvels. Wish. Antman and the Wasp. Haunted Mansion. Little Mermaid and Elemental did fair. Their only clear win was Guardians of the Galaxy 3. 2024 did much better. Three billion dollar plus swings. Inside Out 2, Moana 2, and Deadpool and Wolverine. Wicked didn’t hit that club but obviously did well. 2025 has Disney starting out fairly strong too with the Captain America Brave New World. They are overdue for a whiff. Thing is that if Snow White is the whiff it isn’t because [other movies](https://www.fool.com/investing/2025/03/25/disney-is-still-making-box-office-magic/) are beating it out. > [@](#): > > Domestic year-to-date sales are 6% lower from last year at this point, down 15% from 2023’s pace. Even with screening prices inching higher, box office receipts are more than 25% below pre-pandemic levels. Things are so bad this year that Snow White’s disappointing U.S. debut is actually second only to _Captain America: Brave New World_. > > More than half of all tickets sold this past weekend were for _Snow White_ . The other major premiere was _The Alto Knights_ , and the even presence of Robert De Niro couldn’t spare it from a jaw-dropping $3.2 million in weekend ticket sales. How bad must things be if the studio that has put out this year’s two biggest domestic releases is coming under fire? I won’t be shocked if it ends up building numbers over the next weeks but won’t be surprised either if it doesn’t. It seems like people just aren’t going out to the movies much right now. Maybe other movies will be bigger draws? Or maybe people are feeling economically insecure and staying home to stream instead? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2025, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1127 "2025-03-25T23:54:58Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > 2025 has Disney starting out fairly strong too with the Captain America Brave New World. They are overdue for a whiff. The new Cap is hardly doing well - maybe it’ll break even, maybe it won’t. It certainly isn’t a success. For the sake of comparison, at this point in its run nine years ago, _Captain America: Civil War_ had made twice as much money. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1128 "2025-03-26T00:30:37Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > 2023 had been a bad year for Disney with a series of flops. Indiana Jones. The Marvels. Wish. Antman and the Wasp. Haunted Mansion. Little Mermaid and Elemental did fair. Their only clear win was Guardians of the Galaxy 3. That was the year of Barbie, Oppenheimer and Mario Bors- those three sucked a lot of the money out of movie goers. > [@DSeid](#): > > It seems like people just aren’t going out to the movies much right now. They really arent, what with streaming, etc. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1129 "2025-03-26T00:34:06Z")
Well Civil War made it into the billion plus club. But yes $400 million isn’t quite enough for it to be profitable on its own (although toy and branded crap sales will get it there), officially need 435 M I read. But yeah what is the implication of Disney having the top two grossing films released in ‘25 so far and _neither_ is considered doing well, both possible box office flops? ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1130 "2025-03-26T04:55:42Z")
So I saw the movie a few hours ago, at least partly because I’ve been following this thread for the last couple of years. And…it’s not bad. The dwarfs are basically CGI versions of the hand-drawn animated ones from the 1937 movie. They look pretty odd, in an uncanny-valley way, but you get used to them after a while. They are explicitly described as magical creatures who live in the forest and are not human. And to be honest, they don’t really look human, but more like caricatures. Their portrayal actually makes Peter Dinklage’s comments look rather silly and pointless. These “dwarfs” look nothing like a human with dwarfism. The “bandits” that were added to the plot have very small roles with little to no dialogue (other than the lead bandit, who replaces the Prince). The plot has been updated and Snow White definitely shows more agency than in the original film. And the songs are pretty good too, especially the extended “Heigh-Ho” song. All in all, it was a good, if not great, live-action remake that is worth seeing, in my opinion. I am glad I saw it at the bargain Tuesday price. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1131 "2025-03-26T05:09:10Z")
> [@robby](#): > > They are explicitly described as magical creatures who live in the forest and are not human. And to be honest, they don’t really look human, but more like caricatures. Their portrayal actually makes Peter Dinklage’s comments look rather silly and pointless. These “dwarfs” look nothing like a human with dwarfism. To play devil’s advocate, Zwarte Piet is a magical character who looks like a caricature and who looks nothing like an actual Black person, but it’s still racist as hell. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1132 "2025-03-26T14:25:14Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Although we had probably 30+ kids video tapes, and my kids watch the sound of music 300,000 times. And most of the others only two or three times. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > I guess they also had a video that was _just_ hit songs from Disney movies, and that one was also very popular. I’m not sure we even owned “beauty and the beast”, but we watched “be our guest” a lot. For me it was Lion King, Jungle Book, and Tarzan that I watched a lot. And the Winnie The Pooh movies I mentioned. We had the Disney Sing-along Songs tapes too. There was one where they go to Disneyland and sign the songs there, and since I had only been to Disneyland as a baby and was living in Israel which doesn’t have any theme parks on Disney’s level, that one was pretty mind blowing to me. OTOH I had tapes like Little Mermaid that I watched maybe once in my whole childhood. Actually, that specifically is a memorable one… Digression time! When I was maybe 8 or 9, I was hanging out with a neighbor kid, and he wanted to play a computer game I had. But I had let another friend borrow the game, and he had the CD at his house. But the neighbor was insistent, so we walked to the friend’s house to ask for the game back. But the friend wasn’t home. So I started walking back, but my neighbor _went into their house, went to their computer desk, grabbed the CD, and caught up to me_. I was a good kid, and the idea of a little casual breaking and entering was absolutely shocking to me. (Well, the door was unlocked, but still). I ditched the neighbor, went home, and prepared for the hammer to come down. I was sure that any moment, my friend’s parents and my parents would show up to yell at me for my horrible transgression of aiding and abetting a criminal. With a horrible feeling of impending doom, I decided to try and distract myself by watching a movie I couldn’t remember ever watching before… Hence, Little Mermaid. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1133 "2025-03-26T14:29:05Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > You sure that’s not the queen’s castle? I thought Snow White lived in the woods… Doesn’t she live in the castle until the witch kicks her out? Wait, I guess that wouldn’t make sense, because the prince doesn’t know her? Or is he a foreign prince? Is Snow White related to the evil queen? Or is she just a random (very fancily dressed) peasant in the kingdom who’s prettier according to the mirror? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1134 "2025-03-26T14:32:58Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > Consider yourself lucky not to have the same 6-7 Barney tapes running all the time (kids had Disney tapes too but there’s no accounting for taste). I guess I was just thinking about feature length movies, but they also watch TV shows, and those they sometimes repeat. It depends on how long the backlog is and how much they like the show. Superkitties, my oldest has watched every episode many times, but it’s only 2 seasons. With other shows, like Mickey Mouse Clubhouse or Paw Patrol, there are enough spinoffs and such that they don’t really repeat. But, she’ll demand to listen to songs from Nightmare Before Christmas, or Superkitties, or [THIS damned song.](https://youtu.be/APD9Ipzq_P4?si=5HUK1Cv7RQfB4Pqc) And with Bluetooth and Spotify, there’s almost never an excuse as to why we cannot… ☠ ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1135 "2025-03-26T14:37:49Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Wait, I guess that wouldn’t make sense, because the prince doesn’t know her? Or is he a foreign prince? > > Is Snow White related to the evil queen? Or is she just a random (very fancily dressed) peasant in the kingdom who’s prettier according to the mirror? I don’t know about the new film and can’t remember the one from 1937 (which I saw at maybe 6 years at my first visit to a movie theater), but in the original tale by the Grimm brothers, the evil queen is Snow Whites’s stepmother (the evil stepmother being a recurrent theme in the Grimms’ tales), and the prince is a travelling prince from another kingdom. A digression is the ending (and somehow Disney didn’t want to touch _that_): At Snow White’s and the prince’s wedding, the evil queen is forced to put on red-hot iron shoes and dances herself to death. Justice has been done… ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1136 "2025-03-26T14:46:34Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > But, she’ll demand to listen to songs from Nightmare Before Christmas But, those songs are composed by Danny Elfman! I could listen to his music all day! One day, I will dress as Lock. My Gobhi will dress as Shock. We will find a friend to dress as Barrel and we will get a very large sack. We will sing Kidnap The Santa Claus while walking to local malls and other events to do just that. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1137 "2025-03-26T14:48:13Z")
IIRC in the original story, the evil queen doesn’t just ask the huntsman to bring back Snow White’s heart. He spares the heroine and brings back a pig’s heart. The evil queen then eats it raw. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1138 "2025-03-26T14:49:19Z")
I think it was a deer’s heart, but the rest is correct. To be precise: he takes Snow White to the forest to kill her, but feels pity for her, releases her and tells her to run away. He then shoots a deer instead and brings it’s heart to the evil queen. ---
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> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I don’t know about the new film and can’t remember the one from 1937 (which I saw at maybe 6 years at my first visit to a movie theater), but in the original tale by the Grimm brothers, the evil queen is Snow Whites’s stepmother (the evil stepmother being a recurrent theme in the Grimms’ tales), and the prince is a travelling prince from another kingdom. OK, that sounds about like what I always assumed, but I was second guessing myself, thinking I was copying plot elements from Cinderella to fill in the blanks. Guess not! ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1140 "2025-03-26T15:09:16Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I think it was a deer’s heart, but the rest is correct. In the movie it’s definitely the heart of a pig, I distinctly remember the mirror ratting out the huntsman in rhyme. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359/1141 "2025-03-26T15:09:59Z")
Yeah, I could me remembering incorrectly. My favorite take on Snow White was in the dark, weird and wonderful comic book Nightmares & Fairy Tales. In that one, the huntsman does kill Snow White and take out her heart. She rises as an undead thing. Without her wondrous heart radiating love and compassion, she is angry and evil. She stalks and kills the huntsman and the evil queen. Then, she puts her heart back in her chest. This restores her to life and goodness. She lives happily ever after. ---
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These are good questions. 🤠 ---
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> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I think it was a deer’s heart, but the rest is correct. So a hart heart? > [@DocCathode](#): > > The evil queen then eats it raw. They had a hart to heart. ---
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> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > but in the original tale by the Grimm brothers, the evil queen is Snow Whites’s stepmother (the evil stepmother being a recurrent theme in the Grimms’ tales) FWIW. The trope of evil step mother long predates the Grimms’ collection but it isn’t so clear that the original tales they collected were not actually mothers. > **[Where did the idea of the 'wicked stepmother' come from?](https://www.livescience.com/evil-stepmother-trope-origins)** > > Many fairytales have an evil stepmother who is determined to ruin the lives of her stepchildren. But what are the roots of this age-old trope? > When Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm set about collecting and streamlining German fairy tales in the early 19th century, they were mildly scandalized by how many of them contained evil mothers. “They changed a lot of the mothers and mothers-in-law to stepmothers,” Tatar explained, in an effort to preserve the “sanctity of motherhood.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359.md?page=56) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-dinklage-rips-disney-for-snow-white-remake-what-the-f-k-are-you-doing/958359.md?page=58)