# Peter Fonda is A Despicable, Nasty Piece of Work

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 21, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537 "2018-06-21T21:16:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/21 "2018-06-21T22:24:17Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Well, except that Trump actually harmed children, and Fonda merely talked about it. Though I agree he shouldn’t have said it.

Good point.

And of course Trump is _continuin_g to harm children:

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> … immigration authorities said they have no plans to reunite children with their parents after the parents’ illegal-entry cases have been resolved but their immigration case is still pending.  
> …It can take months or more than a year after the illegal entry charge is resolved.

> **[The US Isn't Just Separating Children From Their Parents. It Also Has No Plan...](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adolfoflores/dhs-border-patrol-ice-orr-no-reunification-children-parents)**
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> Immigration authorities have no intention of reuniting parents separated from their kids until they're about to be deported or released from detention.

No remark from Peter Fonda could reach that level of depravity. Trump’s record is unlikely ever to be surpassed.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/22 "2018-06-21T22:28:50Z")

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Attacking Barron is beyond wrong. Leave the kid alone. Fonda didn’t use Malia, Sasha or Chelsea as ammunition. Why do that to Barron? Let the kid grow up. His family sucks, but the kid is not on the playing field.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/23 "2018-06-21T22:29:14Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> The fish rots from the head. Trump has utterly trashed the level of discourse in the United States.
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> Fonda should say he’s sorry.

He has.

[Peter Fonda apologizes for ‘highly inappropriate and vulgar’ tweet about Barron Trump](https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/peter-fonda-apologizes-highly-inappropriate-vulgar-tweet-barron/story?id=56058267)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/24 "2018-06-21T22:45:12Z")

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When all is said and done, I really don’t care. Do you?

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/25 "2018-06-21T22:49:37Z")

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Nice [jacket dude](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/21/melania-trump-jacket-i-dont-care-child-detention-center-visit-clothes).

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/26 "2018-06-21T22:54:29Z")

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Was it a credible threat against someone? Was there a foreseeable probability that the tweet might cause someone to commit a crime? Was any information disclosed that would help someone take harmful action against anyone?

If not, I don’t see why the Secret Service should get involved.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/27 "2018-06-21T22:56:32Z")

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I guess this is of importance mainly to people who are of the right age and demographic to think that “Easy Rider” was a deep movie.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/28 "2018-06-21T23:03:34Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> He’s making me feel like I’ve never been born.

> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> I was going to say “he’s making me feel like my trousers are torn,” but that would be _too_ appropriate.

OK, someone clue me in on the Beatles reference please.  
mmm

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/29 "2018-06-21T23:05:22Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> He’s making me feel like I’ve never been born.

> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> OK, someone clue me in on the Beatles reference please.  
> mmm

The “she” in “She Said” is Peter Fonda on an acid trip.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/30 "2018-06-21T23:28:40Z")

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Fonda is the Eggman, John Bolton is the Walrus. Lennon had _vision_, man!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/31 "2018-06-21T23:39:42Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Fonda fell into the trap of being as deplorable as Trump: no easy accomplishment. I do hope he’ll apologize.

No, that’s wrong.

What Fonda said is certainly deplorable. But the things that Trump has said are at least ten times as deplorable as what Fonda has said.

And that’s just based on what each man said. Fonda has never done anything that would even approach the level of the horrible things Trump has done and is currently still doing.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/32 "2018-06-21T23:40:57Z")

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Little Nemo, if you read the thread you’ll see that Evil Economist said basically the same thing, and I answered in post #21.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/33 "2018-06-21T23:45:39Z")

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> [@TimeWinder](#):
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> Do you feel as strongly about Trump and the GOP, who are actually DOING it?

Do you have any actual evidence that Trump or the GOP have actually anally raped 11-yo children or is this yet another stupid lie?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/34 "2018-06-21T23:48:01Z")

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You think people would spend so much life getting rich and famous if they knew what it would do to their kids?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/35 "2018-06-21T23:58:59Z")

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What Peter Fonda said about one child was outrageous.

What the Trump administration is doing to countless children is also outrageous. It will also leave deep scars on these children that last for years. They inflict pain knowingly, and seemingly with delight.

Fonda was an asshole this one time, and he apologized for it. The Trumps are assholes every day, and they will never, ever apologize. Let’s keep things in perspective.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/36 "2018-06-22T00:12:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …Let’s keep things in perspective.

I understand what you say, but stumble trying to imagine it. I suppose a concentration camp guard might find child sex abhorrent, but would shrug at sending one along to the showers. There’s a number of things I can’t imagine, and also a bunch I won’t try.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/37 "2018-06-22T00:35:59Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> He blew it.

> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Thanks! :o Wasn’t sure if anybody would get it.

I too saw what you did there.

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/38 "2018-06-22T00:36:41Z")

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One of the worst things about these times is that otherwise normal people are beginning to give in to violent ideation as a reaction to the violent actions they see around them, and sometimes give voice to it.

Just kidding. Violent ideation is bad, and has to be kept in check, but it hardly compares to the horrible, racist, xenophobic, narcissistic malice (and, face it, the amazing cowardly weakness that sees women and children refugees as a threat) that, finding itself with near-unlimited power, creates and enacts real violence against those with no power to resist.

So, it’s bad to wish harm upon an innocent, privileged and ridiculously-protected child (or Barron, for those who assumed I was speaking of Scott Pruitt), but if _that’s_ where your concern lies, as opposed ton the children who have been taken, caged, maltreated, drugged without medical advice or supervision, and lost, your moral compass is broken or missing. If Peter Fonda is bad for wishing a thing on one person, what shall we think of the people who have conspired to do it to thousands?

Never mind. I forgot that most of these people have no problem being hypocrites, even in their own pseudochristianity.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/39 "2018-06-22T00:45:23Z")

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> [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](#):
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> One of the worst things about these times is that otherwise normal people are beginning to give in to violent ideation as a reaction to the violent actions they see around them, and sometimes give voice to it.

But this is how tribalism in politics works. This is how it succeeds. Each and every one of Trump’s outrages incites violent fantasies, which then stirs emotions and reactions and false equivalency. This is also how authoritarianism works, how sectarianism works. Outrage leads to counter-outrage, which then leads those in power to seek “emergency” powers to control those who hate them.

I smell a Reichstag fire in the not-too-distant future.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/40 "2018-06-22T00:55:41Z")

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Committed by a gay Latino black guy member of Antifas. Throw in vegan, what the heck.

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