# Peter Fonda is A Despicable, Nasty Piece of Work **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 21, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537 "2018-06-21T21:16:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/41 "2018-06-22T00:58:40Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > OK, this was a quality callback. Damn good job! Now I get it too - nice allusion! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/42 "2018-06-22T01:28:23Z")
Not everyone is sharp enough to catch it, maybe somebody ought to help them out. I don’t want to take such responsibility, but, you know, maybe… ---
**Author:** ![SOJA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@SOJA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SOJA)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/43 "2018-06-22T01:34:02Z")
Is it really fair to pick on Barron? I don’t like Trump, but I don’t see why attacking a minor is okay. I wasn’t okay with the Obama daughters being picked on by the media. Chelsea Clinton was bullied by the media the entire time Bill was POTUS. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/44 "2018-06-22T01:36:58Z")
> [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](#): > > One of the worst things about these times is that otherwise normal people are beginning to give in to violent ideation as a reaction to the violent actions they see around them, and sometimes give voice to it. > > Just kidding. Violent ideation is bad, and has to be kept in check, but it hardly compares to the horrible, racist, xenophobic, narcissistic malice (and, face it, the amazing cowardly weakness that sees women and children refugees as a threat) that, finding itself with near-unlimited power, creates and enacts real violence against those with no power to resist. > > So, it’s bad to wish harm upon an innocent, privileged and ridiculously-protected child (or Barron, for those who assumed I was speaking of Scott Pruitt), but if _that’s_ where your concern lies, as opposed ton the children who have been taken, caged, maltreated, drugged without medical advice or supervision, and lost, your moral compass is broken or missing. If Peter Fonda is bad for wishing a thing on one person, what shall we think of the people who have conspired to do it to thousands? > > Never mind. I forgot that most of these people have no problem being hypocrites, even in their own pseudochristianity. Great post. And if the first time you were outraged over this whole mess was when some old fart actor said something mean about the Trump kid, then fuck you and fuck everything about you. ---
**Author:** ![Graymalkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Graymalkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Graymalkin)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/45 "2018-06-22T02:34:28Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Thanks! :o Wasn’t sure if anybody would get it. I got it right off! Very nice. ---
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/46 "2018-06-22T02:45:02Z")
Though Peter Fonda’s outrage is understandable, his method of expressing it was outrageous and would probably have a far different result than he was hoping for in the moment. I mean, does anybody actually believe that Donald Trump would give a shit if _any_ of his sons were imprisoned and raped? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/47 "2018-06-22T03:08:53Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > I guess this is of importance mainly to people who are of the right age and demographic to think that “Easy Rider” was a deep movie. Nah. I asked around, and we think it’s piffle. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/48 "2018-06-22T03:14:03Z")
> [@SOJA](#): > > Is it really fair to pick on Barron? I don’t like Trump, but I don’t see why attacking a minor is okay. I wasn’t okay with the Obama daughters being picked on by the media. Chelsea Clinton was bullied by the media the entire time Bill was POTUS. If it isn’t fair to say a child should be put in prison, is it fair to put over two thousand children in prison? Because that’s the comparison of what Fonda and Trump have done. ---
**Author:** ![BeeGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5a626/32.png) [@BeeGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeeGee)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/49 "2018-06-22T03:41:47Z")
This is the same Peter Fonda who said he was training his grandchildren to shoot Obama, right? ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/50 "2018-06-22T03:47:18Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Not everyone is sharp enough to catch it, maybe somebody ought to help them out. I don’t want to take such responsibility, but, you know, maybe… [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/lqkYf3pOnow/hqdefault.jpg "Easy Rider (1969) We blew it - Crucial scene in the movie Summary of an era") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqkYf3pOnow) (Scene from Easy Rider, with happy stoned Dennis Hopper, and serious mysterious Peter Fonda.) ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/51 "2018-06-22T12:23:12Z")
Wait, wait, wait. Buried lede here. Peter Fonda is still alive? I’d have bet pretty good money the other way. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/52 "2018-06-22T16:36:56Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > Wait, wait, wait. Buried lede here. Peter Fonda is still alive? > > I’d have bet pretty good money the other way. My reaction when I saw a twitter response that said any movies or TV shows he is involved with should be pulled was “do you know who Peter Fonda is?”. If he is involved in anything these days it’s news to me. ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/53 "2018-07-04T00:34:38Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Good point. > > And of course Trump is _continuin_g to harm children: > [The US Isn't Just Separating Children From Their Parents. It Also Has No Plan To Reunite Them.](https://www.buzzfeed.com/adolfoflores/dhs-border-patrol-ice-orr-no-reunification-children-parents?utm_term=.rk0Krg8nm#.yjZ2mxBKL) > > No remark from Peter Fonda could reach that level of depravity. Trump’s record is unlikely ever to be surpassed. Trump is playing in a different league than you’re imagining. Trump is a piddling player but in the same league as Pol Pot, Robert Mugabe, and some dude with a little square mustache who shouted a lot, I forgot his name. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/54 "2018-07-04T01:11:50Z")
> [@DavidwithanR](#): > > Trump is playing in a different league than you’re imagining. Trump is a piddling player but in the same league as Pol Pot, Robert Mugabe, and some dude with a little square mustache who shouted a lot, I forgot his name. This article has been mentioned in other threads, but for anyone who hasn’t come across it, it’s worth a look: > [@](#): > > To grasp what is going on in the world right now, we need to reflect on two things. One is that we are in a phase of trial runs. The other is that what is being trialled is fascism – a word that should be used carefully but not shirked when it is so clearly on the horizon. Forget “post-fascist” – what we are living with is pre-fascism. > It is easy to dismiss Donald Trump as an ignoramus, not least because he is. But he has an acute understanding of one thing: test marketing… > > You have to undermine moral boundaries, inure people to the acceptance of acts of extreme cruelty. Like hounds, people have to be blooded. They have to be given the taste for savagery. … > > To see, as most commentary has done, the deliberate traumatisation of migrant children as a “mistake” by Trump is culpable naivety. It is a trial run – and the trial has been a huge success. … [Fintan O’Toole: Trial runs for fascism are in full flow – The Irish Times](https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-trial-runs-for-fascism-are-in-full-flow-1.3543375) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/55 "2018-07-04T06:19:25Z")
Yeah, really bad idea to have tweeted that. But…Peter Fonda? Has Peter Fonda been relevant in at least 30 years? His SISTER, whose name when uttered causes many people to spit on the ground (for things she did 50 years ago), has more relevance today than he does. So yes, really lousy idea, but does it matter? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/56 "2018-07-04T06:56:21Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Yeah, really bad idea to have tweeted that. But…Peter Fonda? Has Peter Fonda been relevant in at least 30 years? His SISTER, whose name when uttered causes many people to spit on the ground (for things she did 50 years ago), has more relevance today than he does. So yes, really lousy idea, but does it matter? Speaking of his sister, for some odd reason, the BS about her getting POWs tortured/maimed/killed is making its rounds yet again. I’ve no idea why. Also, the woman has apologized numerous times, yet she’s still condemned and her apology either ignored or dismissed out of hand. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/57 "2018-07-04T06:59:15Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > Wait, wait, wait. Buried lede here. Peter Fonda is still alive? > > I’d have bet pretty good money the other way. Sure, he was granted immortality in a Faustian bargain. What, you don’t think he _wanted_ to be in _Thomas and the Magic Railroad_, do you? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/58 "2018-07-04T14:56:53Z")
> [@DavidwithanR](#): > > Trump is playing in a different league than you’re imagining. Trump is a piddling player but in the same league as Pol Pot, Robert Mugabe, and some dude with a little square mustache who shouted a lot, I forgot his name. Charlie Chaplin? Stan Laurel? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/59 "2018-07-04T15:52:24Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Speaking of his sister, for some odd reason, the BS about her getting POWs tortured/maimed/killed is making its rounds yet again. I’ve no idea why. Also, the woman has apologized numerous times, yet she’s still condemned and her apology either ignored or dismissed out of hand. Because both the Republican establishment and the grass roots conservatives know for a stone fact that young people and people of color hate their fucking guts. Their only hopes in in the next few elections rely on The Olds–and The Olds are still willing to get het up about Hanoi Jane. Maybe only a little, but every little bit of vitriol helps. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537/60 "2018-07-04T20:37:49Z")
After thinking about this … The terrible awful thing that Peter Fonda said, … and the truly horrendous shit Trump and his minions actually do… I don’t give a damn what Fonda said. It doesn’t make a difference. But the shit Trump is doing, DOES matter. So I’ve decided this brouhaha over Fonda is bullshit. It’s just part of the “why can’t you be civil while we fuck you” garbage. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peter-fonda-is-a-despicable-nasty-piece-of-work/816537.md?page=4)