# Peyton Manning to Broncos, Tebow to be traded **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 19, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233 "2012-03-19T16:17:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/101 "2012-03-21T17:22:06Z")
As a Patriots fan, I welcome this development. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/102 "2012-03-21T17:29:31Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > Just saw this headline on [Fark.com](http://Fark.com). I guarantee you won’t see a better one on the Tebow trade: Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/103 "2012-03-21T17:29:32Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > As a Patriots fan, I welcome this development. 🙂 This rivalry is always entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/104 "2012-03-21T17:33:54Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > Just saw this headline on [Fark.com](http://Fark.com). I guarantee you won’t see a better one on the Tebow trade: > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by [Fark.com](http://Fark.com) > > Religious zealot set to take down Jets in New York City I’m so going to hell for laughing at that. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/105 "2012-03-21T17:45:41Z")
Ugh, I was really hoping Tebow would end up behind a really good QB like Rodgers, just to quiet down the “play Tebow” talk. Unless Sanchez wins every game, Tebow is still gonna dominate the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/106 "2012-03-21T17:48:35Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Unless Sanchez wins every game, Tebow is still gonna dominate the discussion. For a different reason, though: I think Jets fans are losing patience with Sanchez. I don’t know if the other Tebow factors will be a big deal. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/107 "2012-03-21T17:51:51Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Tebow to the New York Jets for a 4th rounder. Wow. More in the NFL thread. So sad. Possibly the worst possible place for Tebow to go. I strongly suspect that the Jets’ thinking is 1. Sparano will develop some kind of specialized Tebowcat package 2. Having Tebow as a backup will put pressure on Sanchez, which will make him better. I am dubious of the first, and very, very dubious of the latter. I expect Sanchez will play about as well as he has for his whole career; I expect Tebow to play about as well as he has for his whole career; I expect drama and headlines and a 7-9 record and Rex Ryan fired and Tebow released. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/108 "2012-03-21T17:53:28Z")
Ugh. This Jets fan may be looking for a new team to root for. I haven’t liked most of their moves and player acquisitions recently; this may put me over the edge. Leaving aside how good a QB he may or may not be (I tend toward “not”): I don’t really dislike Tebow as a person - but man I dislike (with a very broad brush) his rabid fanbase. I’m not sure I want to be associated with this team anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/109 "2012-03-21T18:04:03Z")
> [@furt](#): > > So sad. Possibly the worst possible place for Tebow to go. > I strongly suspect that the Jets’ thinking is > > 1. Sparano will develop some kind of specialized Tebowcat package > 2. Having Tebow as a backup will put pressure on Sanchez, which will make him better. > > I am dubious of the first, and very, very dubious of the latter. > > I expect Sanchez will play about as well as he has for his whole career; I expect Tebow to play about as well as he has for his whole career; I expect drama and headlines and a 7-9 record and Rex Ryan fired and Tebow released. ☹ 7-9? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/110 "2012-03-21T18:38:18Z")
Tebow should change his image. Maybe start wearing a leather jacket… _When you’re a Jet, you’re a Jet all the way from your first cigarette to your last dyin’ day. When you’re a Jet, let 'em do what they can, you got brothers around, you’re a family man! You’re never alone, you’re never disconnected! You’re home with your own when company’s expected, you’re well protected! Then you are set with a capital J, which you’ll never forget till they cart you away. When you’re a Jet, you stay a Jet!_ 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/111 "2012-03-21T18:42:33Z")
So you mean Tebow is going to take a heel turn? This could get interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/112 "2012-03-21T18:47:09Z")
An actual brief conversation I had with a coworker a few minutes ago: Me: How are you doing? Coworker: Not so good. Me: What’s up? Him: I’m a Jets fan and they just traded for Tim Tebow. Me: Ow. When people said the Bills might be interested, I was thinking ‘Please, no.’ But in New York City it’s going to be worse. Him: Welcome to Linsanity 2.0. Me: Except that Jeremy Lin- Him: Helps you win games, yeah. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/113 "2012-03-21T19:03:14Z")
Tebow also can win, and is effective when teams can’t prepare for him, but I wouldn’t want him to be number one for any length of time. Of course, you could now have a shotgun with two QBs ready to receive the snap. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/114 "2012-03-21T19:08:41Z")
I wanna see my boy Greg McElroy beat out Tebow for the starting QB spot. It would be a great ending to a story that goes back quite a few years (Alabama offered Tebow a scholarship. Tebow eventually went to Florida. Alabama offered a QB schollie to McElroy at the last second. Florida (with Tebow) wins 2008 national championship (going through Bama for the SEC championship), Alabama (with McElroy) wins 2009 national championship (going through Florida and Tebow for SEC championship). ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/115 "2012-03-21T19:12:38Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > 7-9? > > :dubious: Okay, maybe 6-10. They were 8-8 last year, and I don’t see any major improvements. They’ve lost a few minor players, and they have at least as many guys on the downside of their career as on the upside. Unless they get improved QB play or a instant-star rookie, I’d expect decline. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/116 "2012-03-21T19:31:49Z")
Shefter reporting Tebow trade voided due to contract language… ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/117 "2012-03-21T19:39:59Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > Shefter reporting Tebow trade voided due to contract language… Yep. It ain’t a done deal yet: [Jets’ trade for Tebow hits a snag, could be voided, Rams may get him](http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/jets-trade-for-tebow-hits-a-snag-could-be-voided-rams-may-get-him/) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/118 "2012-03-21T19:51:55Z")
At this stage, given what a mess the Jets made of their trade, I don’t know where Tebow will end up- but counterintuitively New York might actually be a good place for him, precisely because New York football fans are so RARELY born-again Christians. In many cities, Christian fans would be rooting MUCH too hard for Tim, calling for him to start at QB even when it’s clear he’s not ready. In New York, he wouldn’t have that kind of fawning support among the crowd. Jets fans will cheer for him when he produces- NOT before. They’ll call for him to play when he shows he can do the job and make the throws- NOT before. That’s what Tim really needs, IF he’s ever going to succeed (and I’ve long been on the record as doubting that). In New York, for the first time, he’d have fans who’d LIKE him to succeed but aren’t automatically giving him the benefit of the doubt. He’d actually have to win those fans over on the field. When he succeeded, Jets fans would give him all the priase he’d ever want… but when he stank, they wouldn’t make any excuses for him. That might actually be GOOD for him. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/119 "2012-03-21T19:52:24Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > Shefter reporting Tebow trade voided due to contract language… What, is Stern going to send him to the Clippers? :rolleyes: Joke ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/120 "2012-03-21T19:54:04Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > At this stage, given what a mess the Jets made of their trade, I don’t know where Tebow will end up The issue could be worked out, but it sounds like it’s not that the Jets blew it, it’s that they found something in his contract they don’t like. ESPN says this payment was an issue for Jacksonville, too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233.md?page=7)