# Peyton Manning to Broncos, Tebow to be traded **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 19, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233 "2012-03-19T16:17:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/141 "2012-03-22T05:02:22Z")
Yah but really, I liked the [Jets game](http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011111700/2011/REG11/jets@broncos#tab=recap&recap=quicktake&menu=highlights). ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/142 "2012-03-22T05:02:57Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I thought he should have been picked up by the Saints. šŸ˜‰ Actually, I would not have minded all that much. Drew Brees is approaching Junkyard Dog level popularity in the area, and Saints fans might well kill any rabid Tebowites calling for Brees to be benched. Tebow gets to carry a clipboard on the sidelines and be mentored by an elite guy for a few seasons, possibly run a few Wild Rebel plays now and then, and maybe develop into a legitimate NFL QB down the road. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/143 "2012-03-22T11:06:41Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > This, right here, is why Tebow canā€™t right now be judged for his actual playing performances. His existence has become a referendum not on football or playing style or talent, but on religion, and his fans will not let people ignore him because of it. Nor his detractors. Maybe its just a function of what websites I read, but I see at least as many people shitting on the kid because of his religion as I do people praising him for it. There will be plenty more of that in NY. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/144 "2012-03-22T14:56:11Z")
In New York, there WONā€™T be millions of born-again Christians chanting for Tebow to start at quarterbackā€¦ which may ultimately be GOOD for him. In New York, heā€™ll run the plays the coaches tell him to run in the packages THEY decide on. He isnā€™t likely to start a single game at quarterback this season, and DEFINITELY not before he proves in practice that he can make NFL throws and run an NFL offense. In Sun Belt cities, heā€™d have loads of local fans pressuring the coach to let him start at quarterback. He wonā€™t have that in New York. If he wants the starting quarterback job with the Jets, heā€™ll have to earn it. Exactly as it should be. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/145 "2012-03-22T17:02:01Z")
By the way, the New York Postā€™s headline this morning was ā€œGod Him.ā€ Not their best work. ---
**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/146 "2012-03-22T17:14:29Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > By the way, the New York Postā€™s headline this morning was ā€œGod Him.ā€ Not their best work. Is that supposed to be a play on ā€œgot himā€? As in ā€œTebow was highly sought-after and we got himā€? That headline just fails on so many levels. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/147 "2012-03-22T17:22:48Z")
Yes, the Jets ā€œGot Himā€ after the trade almost fell apart. Itā€™s pretty lame. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/148 "2012-03-22T19:18:03Z")
KSK has their latest of installment of Rex Ryan up, this one reacting to Tebowā€™s arrival in the locker room. kissingsuzykolber.uproxx. com/2012/03/ a-savior -comes -to-new-york. html (Possible NSFW link broken) ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/149 "2012-03-22T19:32:55Z")
[Backup QB Drew Stanton tells the Jets he wants out, so theyā€™re trying to trade him.](http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7722208/new-york-jets-drew-stanton-wants-tim-tebow-deal-source-says) ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/150 "2012-03-22T21:04:03Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > In New York, heā€™ll run the plays the coaches tell him to run in the packages THEY decide on. Iā€™d imagine so, since thatā€™s what heā€™s done everywhere else heā€™s been. Whatever they say about his ability, nobody whoā€™s been around the kid claims heā€™s uncoachable or stubborn. > [@](#): > > In Sun Belt cities, heā€™d have loads of local fans pressuring the coach to let him start at quarterback. He wonā€™t have that in New York. If the Jets have a losing record in November and Sanchez is mediocre? I see youā€™re not familiar with the New York sports media. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/151 "2012-03-22T21:30:06Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Iā€™d imagine so, since thatā€™s what heā€™s done everywhere else heā€™s been. Whatever they say about his ability, nobody whoā€™s been around the kid claims heā€™s uncoachable or stubborn. > > If the Jets have a losing record in November and Sanchez is mediocre? I see youā€™re not familiar with the New York sports media. I grew up in New York- guess again. But Tim Tebow will NOT have ardent champions in the New York media, nor will he have legions of Christian fans pushing the coach to play him. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/152 "2012-03-22T21:32:22Z")
Nah, thereā€™s religious nuts around here too. A much smaller percentage, but of a much larger population base. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/153 "2012-03-22T21:40:10Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > In New York, there WONā€™T be millions of born-again Christians chanting for Tebow to start at quarterbackā€¦ which may ultimately be GOOD for him. > > In New York, heā€™ll run the plays the coaches tell him to run in the packages THEY decide on. He isnā€™t likely to start a single game at quarterback this season, and DEFINITELY not before he proves in practice that he can make NFL throws and run an NFL offense. > > In Sun Belt cities, heā€™d have loads of local fans pressuring the coach to let him start at quarterback. He wonā€™t have that in New York. If he wants the starting quarterback job with the Jets, heā€™ll have to earn it. > > Exactly as it should be. Tebowā€™s fans are national. The guys who paid for the billboard in Denver were from Kentucky. About half of the comments on Tebow stories in the Denver Post come from Florida, As I said previously, listen for the Southern accents on the callers to talk radio suddenly appearing. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/154 "2012-03-22T21:40:34Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > But Tim Tebow will NOT have ardent champions in the New York media, nor will he have legions of Christian fans pushing the coach to play him. You really have to stop with this nonsense. Itā€™s not legions of _Christian fan_s. I am a fan, and I know a bunch of folks who wanna see him playā€¦none of them Christian. We like him. We think heā€™s fun to watch. And the guy they had in BEFORE him was a turd. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/155 "2012-03-22T23:49:30Z")
Your experience notwithstanding, a very large portion of his fan base is evangelical Christian. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/156 "2012-03-23T01:26:29Z")
Hereā€™s a new twist: [Concerns about Tebowā€™s ability to stay healthy sparked Broncosā€™ pursuit of Manning and subsequent trade](http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20228248/concerns-about-tebows-ability-stay-healthy-sparked-broncos) > [@](#): > > This may be difficult to digest given Peyton Manningā€™s highly publicized neck injury, but the Broncos believe he may be less of a health risk as an every-down quarterback than Tim Tebow. > It was Tebowā€™s rib and sternum injuries suffered during the Broncosā€™ 45-10 playoff loss at New England in mid-January that convinced management to rethink its quarterback position, according to NFL sources. I for one was unaware that Tebow had these injuries. And as a lifelong Broncos fan, yes, most of Tebowā€™s fans are evangelicals. I got royally screwed by those people for refusing to join them during my younger years and basically need to get over it, but I like Tebow anyway. I appreciate that there is at least one of those people who didnā€™t cause me a problem. But I will appreciate Manningā€™s comp% even more if it meets expectations. What are the odds that Manning makes it through the season unhurt and doing a good job? ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/157 "2012-03-23T01:30:19Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > Your experience notwithstanding, a very large portion of his fan base is evangelical Christian. A large portion of everyoneā€™s fanbase are evangelicals, since they are something like 25% of the population. Do you have any actual evidence that Tebowā€™s is much higher than that, or are you just repeating what you hear? I lived in Florida when he was in college, and I did not see this alleged phenomenon at all. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/158 "2012-03-23T02:49:48Z")
> [@furt](#): > > A large portion of everyoneā€™s fanbase are evangelicals, since they are something like 25% of the population. Do you have any actual evidence that Tebowā€™s is much higher than that, or are you just repeating what you hear? > > I lived in Florida when he was in college, and I did not see this alleged phenomenon at all. Every Gator I know is evangelical.\* \*About being Gators, no idea where they stand on Christianity. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/159 "2012-03-23T17:42:57Z")
> [@furt](#): > > A large portion of everyoneā€™s fanbase are evangelicals, since they are something like 25% of the population. Do you have any actual evidence that Tebowā€™s is much higher than that, or are you just repeating what you hear? > > I lived in Florida when he was in college, and I did not see this alleged phenomenon at all. Has Pat Robertson ever lept to the defense of a football player faster before than he has for Tebow (now on multiple ocassions)? He just recently said that he wouldnā€™t be surprised if Manning was reinjured because of how shabbily the Broncos treated Tebow. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233/160 "2012-03-23T19:30:38Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Has Pat Robertson ever lept to the defense of a football player faster before than he has for Tebow (now on multiple ocassions)? He just recently said that he wouldnā€™t be surprised if Manning was reinjured because of how shabbily the Broncos treated Tebow. And Pat Robertsonā€™s liking Tebow extrapolates to all Tebow fans? If one fan or one group of fans has a characteristic, ALL fans share that characteristic? I can see why some Christian folks would like him and root for him while not being football fans, him being one of their own and all. But is it THAT hard for some to believe that non-Christians may be fans, and in numbers? Seriously? You have never seen an atypical player that just sparked something in you, and you wanted him to succeed against the odds? 'Cause I find that idea kinda sad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-manning-to-broncos-tebow-to-be-traded/616233.md?page=9)