# Peyton out of Indy! Or: Colts ready to press their Luck **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 6, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987 "2012-03-06T23:54:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/81 "2012-03-11T13:15:56Z")
… and he \*lives \*in south Florida in the offseason. FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/82 "2012-03-11T13:34:10Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The Jets gave Sanchez a contract extension, so they’ve made their choice. Great. Now I won’t have to worry that Rex Ryan will finally live up to one of his stupid guarantees. Unless he guarantees they won’t make it to the Super Bowl. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/83 "2012-03-11T18:22:41Z")
Lots of coverage about Manning visiting the Cardinals today. The Cards do have one of the best receivers in the NFL in Larry Fitzgerald. Ten games in good weather or a dome (8 home, at SF, at STL) and no Tim Tebow nonsense to deal with. He’d have a capable backup in John Skelton assuming Kolb is cut. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/84 "2012-03-11T22:48:48Z")
[The Tennessee Titans are in the game.](http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120311/SPORTS01/120311018/Titans-owner-Bud-Adams-wants-sign-Peyton-Manning?odyssey=mod%7Cbreaking%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE) "“He is the man I want. Period,” Adams [Titans owner] said. “And the people that work for me understand that. They know who I want. I want Mr. Manning with the Titans and I will be disappointed if it doesn’t happen.” I can’t tell if this is simply an owner venting, but I will note that the Titans drafted Vince Young because Adams wanted him over the desires of the coach and GM at the time. It would be interesting to have Manning back in Tennessee, and playing twice against the Colts would certainly be appealing. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/85 "2012-03-12T05:43:53Z")
Denver media are reporting that it is between Denver and Arizona and Manning is done with visits. They say a decision will come on Tuesday. They also say it is most likely Denver. The Tebow fans are in meltdown mode. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/86 "2012-03-12T05:48:57Z")
ESPN agrees the Broncos and Cardinals are the favorites, however, they say there’s little chance he’ll make his decision by Tuesday. I don’t think the Titans are really in this thing - otherwise they’d be talking to him instead of having their owner speak to the media. ---
**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/87 "2012-03-12T06:43:35Z")
I’d love to see him here in Arizona. Hell, I’d drive out to Glendale to see him play, and I don’t even like the Cards! (Not-so-secret-Secret: most people around Phoenix like another team because so few people are actually FROM this place.) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/88 "2012-03-12T12:35:56Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > ESPN agrees the Broncos and Cardinals are the favorites, however, they say there’s little chance he’ll make his decision by Tuesday. I think he will. His signing (or not signing) with a team is going to make a tremendous difference in how they approach the free agent market. Manning is fully aware that whoever he signs with is still going to need to hit the ground running on free agents and he’s never struck me as the type of prima donna that would milk the situation for ego. I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t announce his decision today. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/89 "2012-03-12T14:57:30Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Manning is fully aware that whoever he signs with is still going to need to hit the ground running on free agents and he’s never struck me as the type of prima donna that would milk the situation for ego. I don’t think he’s being a prima donna. I think they’re saying he is just taking some time to make this decision. He was released Wednesday, he’s heard pitches from two or maybe three teams, and he’s supposedly putting off some exams and throwing. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/90 "2012-03-12T15:02:09Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I don’t think the Titans are really in this thing - otherwise they’d be talking to him instead of having their owner speak to the media. There’s been a very vocal group in Tennessee that’s been lobbying for Manning to come, and I bet it’s gotten a ton of fan support. Whether the owner wants Manning or not, it’s good business for him to at least \*say \*he really wants Manning. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/91 "2012-03-12T15:06:50Z")
It definitely is. ---
**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/92 "2012-03-12T15:17:44Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > ..if he can’t teach Tebow how to be a pro quarterback, no one can. Yeah, Manning must be a great teacher: look at how well his backup performed this last year. Oh, wait. Hmm… ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/93 "2012-03-12T15:21:07Z")
> [@Quercus](#): > > Yeah, Manning must be a great teacher: look at how well his backup performed this last year. Oh, wait. Hmm… It’s moot anyway. The Broncos have all but admitted that if Manning is signed, Tebow is gone–most likely to Jacksonville. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/94 "2012-03-12T15:22:46Z")
> [@Quercus](#): > > Yeah, Manning must be a great teacher: look at how well his backup performed this last year. Oh, wait. Hmm… I overheard (what I can only assume is a rumor) this morning on Mike and Mike that Jacksonville is somehow involved in this…the Broncos get Manning and ship Tebow to Jacksonville in exchange for Gabbert, purportedly for Gabbert to be groomed as the heir apparent under Manning. Weird. Why wouldn’t the Broncos just keep Tebow instead? He’s a PR/money/hype machine. ETA: Curses, foiled by **Frank**! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/95 "2012-03-12T15:27:06Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Why wouldn’t the Broncos just keep Tebow instead? He’s a PR/money/hype machine. Notice how your list of his qualities doesn’t include “good quarterback?” Your backup QB isn’t going to bring in a lot of money or hype anyway. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/96 "2012-03-12T21:19:26Z")
I agree that once Manning was gone, little point in NOT pulling the pin on the grenade. I’d lovqe to see the Tebow/Gabbert trade once hmey get Manning. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/97 "2012-03-13T01:06:07Z")
I really hate the “gave up X picks” for a player, because you wouldn’t say “you gave up X pick to draft a player”, you’d just say “you drafted that player”. “Gave up” suggests to me what you’re giving away in value. If you ignore what you’re getting back, you could have a situaton in which you have the #25 pick in round one, add a 6th rounder and trade up to #23, add a 5th rounder and trade up to #20, add a 4th rounder and trade up to #18, and then you gave up 4 first round picks to draft the guy at #18. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/98 "2012-03-13T01:50:20Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Why wouldn’t the Broncos just keep Tebow instead? He’s a PR/money/hype machine. > > ETA: Curses, foiled by **Frank**! If Tebow were just Tim Tebow, they might keep him and give him a shot to develop, but he’s not just Tim Tebow. He comes with an army of rabid fans who can’t see a single fault with him and who flood radio talk show with ignorant babble, and curse the coaches and management for failing to see things exactly like they do. Honestly, John Elway and John Fox and the Broncos can’t get rid of Tebow fast enough. I can’t imagine why any NFL GM would voluntarily bring Tebow’s Army upon himself. I think Elway would let him go for a box of kicking tees right now. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/99 "2012-03-16T19:10:20Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > As a 49ers fan, I can only hope they’re a dark horse to get him. Bumping this thread to say I was right about the 49ers taking a look. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987/100 "2012-03-16T19:33:55Z")
Cards are keeping Kolb. Possible bullet dodged there for the Browns. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peyton-out-of-indy-or-colts-ready-to-press-their-luck/614987.md?page=6)