# Pfuck you, Pfizer (Too Big to Punish!) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 3, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pfuck-you-pfizer-too-big-to-punish/534864 "2010-04-03T22:57:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pfuck-you-pfizer-too-big-to-punish/534864/41 "2010-04-23T19:23:20Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > I believe this demonstrates that we are all interdependent, just this happens to be so big that the results are immediately obvious, but anyone anyone hurts diminishes us all, this applies to crime and punishment, both criminal and government, both are a hit against humanity, both hurt us all. > > my $0.02 I am diminished after having read this post. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pfuck-you-pfizer-too-big-to-punish/534864/42 "2010-04-23T19:51:12Z")
Could we give them a paddling? ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pfuck-you-pfizer-too-big-to-punish/534864/43 "2010-04-23T20:10:00Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Well, Enron was dead long before anyone went to jail. Biggest corporate bankruptcy ever, remember? (It didn’t hold the record very long, alas.) > > One thing that happens in some cases is corporate receivership – the company is placed under the control of a regulatory body or court official of some kind, who can investigate wrongdoing and sell off assets or wind down operations in an orderly fashion. In the US this happens sometimes to financial institutions (e.g. FDIC receivership) and insurance companies in some states. I don’t think there’s any general power at the federal level for placing a corporation in receivership for criminal offenses. Maybe it would be a useful enforcement tool. Like what we did with the companies in Germany after the second world war. I for one wouldn’t mind seeing Pfizer broken up. Do the crime, do the time. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pfuck-you-pfizer-too-big-to-punish/534864/44 "2010-04-24T20:02:34Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Just to be clear (from your link): [Pfizer fined $2.3 billion](http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2009/sep/03/pfizer-fined-23-billion/) The Pfizer payment was 2.3 billion ,which they sent the next day. They made more than that ,so it was a good business decision. If the had an investigation ,the honchos would be like the Moodies and other rating companies one this week. None of the bosses had any information that it was going on . Anybody who was a whistle blower was completely unknown to them and they would have never allowed it to go on if they knew. Pfizer had to play the whistle blowers over 100 million. Corporations are soulless beasts who must do anything they can to make money. They can not afford to worry about a few deaths and side effects. Fines are just the cost of doing business in America. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pfuck-you-pfizer-too-big-to-punish/534864/45 "2010-04-24T21:55:46Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Could we give them a paddling? Oh, you better believe that’s a paddlin’. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pfuck-you-pfizer-too-big-to-punish/534864/46 "2010-04-24T22:00:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well, I’ll tell you, scooter. I raised a boy any man would be proud to have for a friend. Got some friends I’ve had for more than forty years, and a few more I picked up along the way. Got a woman with a mind like a steel trap, makes Scareltt Johannsen looks like an underfed skank. Thinks my jokes are funny. Well, says she does, which is close enough. Got few enemies, and no victims. > > Here you tell it, you got money. Good for you. > Best count your fingers when you pull yer hand back. Right, because people with money automatically don’t have authentic relationships with friends and family, as do all people who don’t have a lot of money. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > Was that really necessary? Was 'luci’s posta bove really necessary? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pfuck-you-pfizer-too-big-to-punish/534864/47 "2010-04-24T22:09:12Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Right, because people with money automatically don’t have authentic relationships with friends and family, as do all people who don’t have a lot of money. I guess we’ll never know, until rich people start posting here. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pfuck-you-pfizer-too-big-to-punish/534864/48 "2010-04-24T22:22:59Z")
I’ve always opposed antitrust actions based solely on size and market share. But now, in this age of bailouts of companies because they are “too big to fail”, I’m coming around to the position that a company “too big to fail” is too big to exist and should be broken up. _Bless me Teddy Roosevelt, for I have sinned…_ ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pfuck-you-pfizer-too-big-to-punish/534864/49 "2010-04-24T22:36:20Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I guess we’ll never know, until rich people start posting here. I suppose you meant that as a dig on me. I’ve never claimed to be rich and don’t care whether anyone else classifies me as such. Also, 'luci’s post didn’t say anything about “rich” people, just people that “got money.” ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pfuck-you-pfizer-too-big-to-punish/534864/50 "2010-04-25T00:51:42Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > But did the drug company know, when it began deceiving consumers, that the drug would prove to be worthless in the long run? The threat of taking away the patent could, in other cases, act as a deterrent. It was approved for very narrow use. Pfizer immediately pushed it to doctors and hospitals as a general use drug. They paid them to use it or prescribe it. Bribery is how they do business. Doctors do not know all the facts about every drug that comes their way. They rely on the drug companies, apparently too much. There are thousands of drugs and more coming all the time. There is no way a doctor can keep up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pfuck-you-pfizer-too-big-to-punish/534864.md?page=2)