# Phil Collins and Genesis play their last Gig **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [March 28, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842 "2022-03-28T16:56:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GESancMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gesancman/32/2923_2.png) [@GESancMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GESancMan)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/21 "2022-03-29T03:44:29Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I’m still waiting for @GESancMan to join in! I guess we know what my favorite Genesis song is. 🙂 I first became aware of Genesis in the early 80s, when I was in junior high school. When I was 15 - at the time _Invisible Touch_ was huge - I started getting into progressive rock, and dug into the Genesis of the '70s. They have been one of my favorite bands ever since. Sadly, I never did get to see them live. I had tickets for a show in Los Angeles in '92, but unfortunate circumstances caused me to miss it. S’okay, though. I saw Steve Hackett at a club the next year. It was probably better seeing him play the “Firth of Fifth” solo, about 20 feet away from him, rather than Daryl Stuermer a mile away in a stadium. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/22 "2022-03-29T04:12:18Z")
This song absolutely encapsulates my youth, excepting possibly some of Elton John: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/q4yHUVPV4eQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Genesis - The Carpet Crawlers (Official Live Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4yHUVPV4eQ) Growing old should not be allowed. It’s just a tragic loss. ---
**Author:** ![thdudescar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thdudescar/32/4638_2.png) [@thdudescar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thdudescar)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/23 "2022-03-29T13:40:29Z")
Wind and Wuthering and Selling England by the Pound. Seen them twice. Once here in New Orleans at the Saenger Theater (Duke tour) and in Dallas at the AA Arena supporting the Abacab album. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/24 "2022-03-29T16:14:38Z")
Saw them in 1983…first concert. Phil’s life experience probably evokes one of the most sympathetic reactions I have for someone still alive. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/25 "2022-03-29T16:18:34Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/23cUcLKc374/maxresdefault.jpg "Genesis - Carpet Crawlers 1999 (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23cUcLKc374) This version with Pete and Phil but modern production values…made me so sad that there old stuff was never redone aside from this. I’ve just never been able to get into much before “And Then There Three…” because to my ear its just to proto-Genesis. I guess i could take another shot. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/26 "2022-03-29T16:58:13Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > Saw them in 1983…first concert. > > Phil’s life experience probably evokes one of the most sympathetic reactions I have for someone still alive. I can’t think of another 71 year old musician that aged so rapidly. Phil looks like he’s 90. It’s such a shame that his days of performing are over. Keith Richards looks like walking death, but he’s surprisingly healthy. Still stands up for the entire concert. ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/27 "2022-03-29T17:07:12Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Keith Richards looks like walking death, but he’s surprisingly healthy. Still stands up for the entire concert. As I commented on Bored Panda when someone griped about how expensive Rolling Stones concert tickets are, that voodoo priest to keep Keith reanimated has to cost them quite a bit. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/28 "2022-03-29T17:18:08Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Keith Richards looks like walking death, but he’s surprisingly healthy. Still stands up for the entire concert. Keef has been looking like walking death since 1969 or so. He’s unbreakable. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/29 "2022-03-29T19:07:56Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > > [@Pavelb1](#): > > > > Saw them in 1983…first concert. > > > > Phil’s life experience probably evokes one of the most sympathetic reactions I have for someone still alive. > > I can’t think of another 71 year old musician that aged so rapidly. Phil looks like he’s 90. It’s such a shame that his days of performing are over. They did a 35th anniversary reissue of his “Face Value” album in 2016 with an updated cover photo. Yikes! (Scroll down in the article a bit…) > **[Face Value (album)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_Value_(album))** > > Face Value is the debut solo studio album by English drummer and singer-songwriter Phil Collins, released on 13 February 1981 by Virgin Records. After his first wife filed for divorce in 1979, Collins began to write songs during a break in activity from Genesis with much of the material concerning his personal life. The album was recorded from mid-1980 to early 1981 with Collins and Hugh Padgham as producers. Additional musicians include the Phenix Horns, Alphonso Johnson, and Eric Clapto Face... ---
**Author:** ![Hoops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoops/32/6408_2.png) [@Hoops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoops)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/30 "2022-03-29T20:14:25Z")
Here’s some concert footage of the band from 1973. It’s apparently been rattling around the internet for some time, but recently someone put a lot of time and effort into restoring and upconverting it. It looks like it was filmed yesterday! Anyway, if you’re a fan of the Gabriel years, you’ve probably already seen it. But if you aren’t familiar with them, have a look to see what these five young weirdos were up to, a decade before the streamlined three-piece edition (not to mention the solo careers of Collins and Gabriel) stormed the pop charts in the 80s. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8qMsr7jjQF0/maxresdefault.jpg "Genesis live, Paris Bataclan 1973 long version, 16mm master in 4k") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qMsr7jjQF0) In later years, Collins’ pop success and ubiquity made him a bit of a punchline (unfairly, IMHO); here, you can see what a fine musician he was. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/31 "2022-03-29T22:12:13Z")
I first started getting into Phil around 2005. In August of 2007, I had a psychotic break and went into the hospital. I was pretty messed up for several months. At one point we were living with church friends and I was suffering from depersonalization, in which I was struggling to remember basic facts about myself. I asked Mom to give me yes or no answers to questions I would ask, as I tried to remember who I was. (All of the answers were yes.) One of them was whether I liked Phil Collins. Phil got me through a very dark time in my life, and I wish him well in his retirement. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/32 "2022-03-30T06:29:51Z")
Big fan. Saw them on the **Duke** tour in Ohio. **Seconds Out** is one the best live recordings you will ever hear. Phil is one the top 5 drummers of all time, IMHO. Loved it when he sat in with Robert Plant on his first couple of solo albums. But then he did **Easy Lover**. Nobody’s perfect I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/33 "2022-03-30T13:24:31Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > **Seconds Out** is one the best live recordings you will ever hear. I haven’t thought of **Seconds Out** in ages. Will have to find my copy. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/34 "2022-03-30T13:44:05Z")
I’d never heard that version. What a great combination of 90s Genesis’ sound as well as Peter Gabriel’s Secret World Live sound. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/35 "2022-03-30T13:56:21Z")
I saw Mike play some drums in concert…but I’ve never seen Tony play guitar! ---
**Author:** ![Made\_in\_Macau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@Made\_in\_Macau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Made_in_Macau)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/36 "2022-03-30T14:44:35Z")
He used to play 12-string in concert in the early days. MiM ---
**Author:** ![Made\_in\_Macau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@Made\_in\_Macau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Made_in_Macau)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/37 "2022-03-30T15:12:00Z")
I was there too. Man, it pissed down. I think I still have a vinyl bootleg of the gig. I saw them 6 times including that show. The 1st time being the stripped down Duke tour at much smaller venues than the previous arenas. It was at Sophia Gardens Pavillion in Cardiff, April 9 1980. A friend of mine was roadie for the day and sneaked me into the venue just before the sound check. Got on stage, sat at Phil’s kit (I’m also left handed but didn’t dare hit anything) touched guitars and stepped on Mike R’s bass pedals causing the engineer to tell me to get the fuck off the stage. Great gig but no Supper’s Ready. 1981 in the NEC in Birmingham. My girlfriend had no interest in them but came along. She was so kind and patient when I sobbed for about 15 minutes at the end of Supper’s Ready - she was totally baffled. I’m not sure I know why, but the ‘New Jerusalem’ still makes me well up. Phil Collins was such an amazing drummer - his playing on Cinema Show for instance is difficult to even comprehend. Their music has been a huge part of my life. ETA - I was listening to Seconds Out recently and the drum fill a minute into Los Endos jumped out at me as the proto version of his ‘Most Famous Drum Fill Ever’ on In The Air Tonight I hope PC’s health issues don’t plague him further. MiM ---
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My Genesis concert memories… First time I saw them was on the Duke tour, summer of 1980, at the Kiel Opera House in St Louis (a ~3500 seat venue). I tagged along with my brother and some of his friends. Just starting to get into them at the time, so I wasn’t as familiar with the music. I do remember some doofus in the back yelling “Rock and roll!” when they started playing “Ripples”. 🙄 Second time was at the Arena in St Louis on the Abacab tour. Phil did the Romeo and Juliet bit that was the well-known intro to “Cinema Show”, but then the band launched into “Supper’s Ready”. Freakin’ awesome. Third time was at Kemper Arena in Kansas City for the Mama tour. A fantastic show with about a half hour delay in the middle when the power went out. ---
**Author:** ![Made\_in\_Macau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@Made\_in\_Macau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Made_in_Macau)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842/39 "2022-04-04T17:14:03Z")
Sir, despite my love of Joe Jackson and our shared positivity to Genesis, I have to ask you to meet me on the common at dawn with your Seconds, as you have ruined my reputation as Chief Threadkiller at the Dope. MiM ---
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> [@Made\_in\_Macau](#): > > Sir, despite my love of Joe Jackson and our shared positivity to Genesis, I have to ask you to meet me on the common at dawn with your Seconds I have to ask you to meet me on the common at dawn with your _ **Seconds Out** _ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-and-genesis-play-their-last-gig/961842.md?page=3)