Correction: The “Duke” opener of “Behind the lines” has a 2 minute intro of it’s 5 minute plus playtime. That is a really long time for a radio friendly song.
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So imagine a band with two drummers and a keyboardist with a stack of them. And after only one long minute, the drummer on the right (stage left) pops down to be the lead singer.
Dunno if that opened the show yet I like the crowd cheer when after only one minute Phil comes down to sing.
Will check out the doc.
Doubting there’ll be any apology to drummer Chester Thompson for Phil’s tantrum at CT in front of the band and crew in 2010 during Going Back tour. Sure, bandmates always have run-ins / squabbles, but not only was this waaaaay over the top, it’s extra lousy that Phil hasn’t bothered to even speak to George since then.
I think there’s something to be said by this reddit comment:
Still venerating “Selling England By the Pound” and “Duke”.
Genesis “broke up” (sort of) around 1998. But Collins left (sort of) in 1996. “Can’t Hurry Love” was long before then in 1982. And his breakout was his first solo album “Face Value” with the hits “In the Air Tonight” and “I Missed Again”.
I know his tambourine dance (during "I Know What I Like) but I’ve not seen the cymbal dance.
I’m young enough that hip hop was popular when I was a teen. I didn’t like hip hop, so I started listening to eighties music, and bought a greatest hits album of Phil Collins’ music.
“I Wish It Would Rain Down” is unquestionably his most enduring song on my playlists. When I want to get all up in my emotions and belt out a sad song, that part where he sings “But I know in my heart of hearts / I know I’m never going to hold you again” followed by that guitar riff is just perfection and never, ever gets old. A perfect song to cry to when you’re going through a break-up, but also just great music.
I’m also a fan of “Something Happened on the Way to Heaven.” And of course, “In the Air Tonight.”
Oh man, if you want a sad Phil Collins song, check out “You Know What I Mean” from his first solo album. That song is a real gut-punch.
Just leave, oh leave me alone in my dreams
You’ve taken everything else
You know what I mean
Oh damn, you’re right. Gut-punch is an apt description for that song!
Of course I meant tambourine, man. Back then he always had to be doing something percussive if he wasn’t drumming or singing.
That’s the great part about getting old… your memory is as sharp as ever!
Yeah, what he said… um, what did he say again, now…?
Rather bad taste actually; one of my oldest friends who used to be about the sharpest and best-educated fellow I ever knew is descending into dementia. It is heartbreaking to see his wife, also a good friend, trying to deal with it.
Sorry for hijack… I will shed a tear and bow out of this thread.
Somewhere in the 80s’s Phil reckoned he didn’t need Rutherford/Banks songs as he had Face Value and the Concorde, helicopters and bringing back the unique experience of John Bonham as if on a whim.
“Can’t hurry love” as a highlight? That was a manufactured Motown song and it was written for The Supremes" who do it best.
"No Jacket Required? “Sussudio” and I always in my head insert “Rikki” Don’t lose my number.
I was going to to say he is - yet it is sadly was - a terrific drummer with great frontman-audience interaction.
On “Trick of the Tail” he blasts off with “Dance on a Volcano”, does the light voice in “Entangled” and after the drum solo on “Mad, Mad Moon” his “Hey man! I’m the Sandman! And, boy have I news for you!!” rivals any rock/metal lyric (even if R/B wrote it) - the presentation is spectacular.
Another good sad song by Phil (with Genesis) is More Fool Me from their best album (IMO) Selling England By The Pound.*
The songwriting credits are for all five members of the band (Banks, Collins, Gabriel, Hackett and Rutherford) but I believe Phil mostly, if not entirely, wrote the lyrics and Rutherford the music.
It’s not a “gut punch” and sounds fairly happy–it’s written in a major key. But it’s about Phil’s relationship and break-up troubles, yet again. It’s a different sound for Genesis and a nice little song that’s just Phil singing backed by acoustic guitar (probably Rutherford)
A bit of the lyrics from the middle:
And you’d be the one who was laughing
Except when things weren’t going your way
And then the lady would say that she’d had enough
Wandering around on her own.
The day you left
Well I think you knew you’d not be back
Well at least it would seem that way
Because you never said goodbye.
But when it comes round to you and me
I’m sure it will work out alright.
And you’d be the one who was laughing
And giving me something I don’t need
And you know, I’d always hold you and keep you warm
Oh! more fool me.
*If you want to get a good idea of Gabriel-era Genesis at it’s zenith, listen to Selling England By The Pound. Now, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is also an excellent Gabriel-era Genesis album but it’s not nearly as accessible as Selling England.
Too late to add to my last post:
More Fool Me was the very first Genesis song sung by Phil Collins. Peter Gabriel was still their lead singer at the time.
ETA: oops. Phil’s first lead vocal was For Absent Friends from a few years earlier.