# Phil Collins Plotting Comeback: 'I Am No Longer Retired. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 4, 2015, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591 "2015-11-04T04:56:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/1 "2015-11-04T04:56:51Z")
šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ We need a high 5 icon. šŸ˜› Best news Iā€™ve heard all year. Phil is planning a major comeback and a new album. Heā€™s had surgery and addressed his health problems. Heā€™s ready to perform again. I really hope he tours the US. Iā€™ll be first in line for tickets. > **[Phil Collins Plotting Comeback: 'I Am No Longer Retired'](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired-42097/2/)** > > Phil Collins is plotting a new tour and album more than a decade after announcing his retirement. > [@](#): > > turns to his future plans, he grows animated and excited. ā€œIā€™m no longer officially retired,ā€ he says. ā€œThe horse is out of the stable and Iā€™m raring to go.ā€ > [@](#): > > Anticipating a return, he reconvened his old band, including bassist Leland Sklar and drummer Jason Bonham (in place of Chester Thompson), for three weeks of rehearsal last year. ā€œI wasnā€™t in good shape and then I got sick, which didnā€™t help,ā€ he says. > \ > Heā€™s also moving a studio into his Miami home and says that heā€™ll be begin recording new music in about a month, though heā€™s unsure if the tour will come before or after an album. The decision will be based partially on the publicā€™s reception to his upcoming slate of solo album reissues, which will feature tons of unheard demos and alternate versions of songs from throughout his career. ā€œI got very involved in these reissues,ā€ he says. ā€œWe even re-shot all the covers, which was my idea. Iā€™m easily flattered. If people rediscover the old stuff and show interest, it would be silly to not make more music.ā€ > > Collinsā€™ longtime manager Tony Smith is laying the groundwork for a tour right now, but the details are up in the air. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/2 "2015-11-04T05:09:24Z")
Meh. His adult contemporary schmaltz hasnā€™t been worth my time since he started singing for Tarzan movies. Even his Genesis reunion was rather sad. Glad to hear heā€™s finally recovered from his medical issues, though. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/3 "2015-11-04T12:25:35Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Meh. His adult contemporary schmaltz hasnā€™t been worth my time since he started singing for Tarzan movies. Even his Genesis reunion was rather sad. > > Glad to hear heā€™s finally recovered from his medical issues, though. Not going to argue; I donā€™t listen to him much. But I respect him deeply as a musician and am glad to hear he is feeling healthy enough to perform. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/4 "2015-11-04T13:55:32Z")
Ughā€¦some idiot radio DJs were flouting their ignorance this morning on the subject. ā€œThe [Change.Org](http://Change.Org) petition to stop Phil Collins has almost 1,000 signatures! (wowā€¦1,000)ā€ Genesis was great up til their titular album. Invisible Touch has some good tracks. His first two albums are great. And finally heā€™s healthy enough to play drums again Iā€™m guessing and not contemplating suicide. Sounds good to me. Now maybe Peter Gabriel can be convinced to do that one time performance of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Phil wanted. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/5 "2015-11-04T14:24:40Z")
Iā€™ll definitely give it a listen. Iā€™m not a huge fan, but got into his music around the time ā€œEverydayā€ came out. ---
**Author:** ![GESancMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gesancman/32/2923_2.png) [@GESancMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GESancMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/6 "2015-11-04T14:37:32Z")
I love this partā€¦ > [@](#): > > The Peter Gabriel-led lineup of Genesis hasnā€™t played since a one-off reunion in 1982 and they havenā€™t toured since 1975. Fans continue to fantasize about a reunion, which baffles Collins. ā€œI just donā€™t understand that,ā€ he says. "They havenā€™t thought it through. Pete wonā€™t sing ā€˜Invisible Touchā€™ or ā€˜I Canā€™t Dance.ā€™ Weā€™d only do material like ā€˜The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.ā€™ Um, Philā€¦ weā€™ve thought it through perfectly. What baffles me is that you think those of us wishing for a Gabriel reunion would _want_ to see him sing ā€œI Canā€™t Dance.ā€ The whole idea is that we would only want to see the Gabriel-era stuff performed! ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/7 "2015-11-04T14:46:30Z")
> [@GESancMan](#): > > I love this partā€¦ > > Um, Philā€¦ weā€™ve thought it through perfectly. What baffles me is that you think those of us wishing for a Gabriel reunion would _want_ to see him sing ā€œI Canā€™t Dance.ā€ The whole idea is that we would only want to see the Gabriel-era stuff performed! Iā€™m wondering if that was cobbled from a prior interview. Collins himself was wanting to do a concert of Lambā€¦with him sitting in the back and playing drums. And Iā€™d love to see Peter sing the latest Genesis stuffā€¦of course the concert would be 6 hours long or only three songs. I can only imagine a Peter Gabriel version of ā€œI Canā€™t Danceā€ ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/8 "2015-11-04T15:59:22Z")
As if Gabriel doesnā€™t have a huge section of his career based on lame adult contemporary and cringe-worthy pop crap. If Collins had followed up his 80s albums with World Music instead of singing for Disney movies, would he have a better reputation? I guess the key is to sandwich your 80s pop between a costumed Prog Rock era and a Worldbeat later life. As far as the Gabriel era Genesis reunion, I wonder what the demand would be. I think Phil has a point. How much of the demand is from fans who want a strictly Gabriel-era concert, and how much is nostalgia from people who want both? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/9 "2015-11-04T16:31:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Collinsā€™ longtime manager Tony Smith is laying the groundwork for a tour right now, but the details are up in the air. Donā€™t they mean ā€œin the air _tonight?_ā€ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/10 "2015-11-04T17:18:52Z")
Looks like somebodyā€™s out of money. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/11 "2015-11-04T18:07:50Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Looks like somebodyā€™s out of money. I would highly doubt that. He made a mint. Yes, I know how rock stars work, but he was a professional musician on a number of levels. ETA: a Google of ā€œwhat is Phil Collinsā€™ net worthā€ suggests he is worth $250 million. No clue how accurate that might be. ETAAgain: we may not like his overly commercial music, but his quality and reputation as a player have never been in doubt. And he had great commercial success. He got his start as a child actor and has performed his whole life. I have no issue with this simply wanting to get back on stage, after a break and in better health. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/12 "2015-11-04T18:34:43Z")
I think he has been misquoted. Surely he said ā€œrequired.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/13 "2015-11-04T18:46:33Z")
Iā€™m really excited to hear this, but then I guess Iā€™m fogey adjacent. I like old Genesis, Phil Collins era Genesis and solo Phil so Iā€™d jump at the chance to see any of them (hate hate hate Mike and the Mechanics though). Not sure why anyone would even open, much less take the time to post in, a thread about someone you have no interest in but I guess your disinterest means thereā€™ll be a few more tickets available. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/14 "2015-11-04T19:08:41Z")
If fans want a Gabriel-era Genesis show, they should go check out The Musical Box, who reproduce vintage Genesis tours with the original stage sets, costumes, etc. Of course Iā€™d go see any Genesis reunion that has Steve Hackett on guitar, no matter who was singing what. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/15 "2015-11-04T20:50:06Z")
Any Genesis reunion with Gabriel would have to include Steve Hackett, that goes without saying. Now if only Steve could find time in his busy scheduleā€¦ But FWIW, a Gabriel-era reunion is very unlikely to ever happen. The last time an interviewer asked him about it, Peter said: ā€œIt took me 35 years to shake the ā€˜ex-Genesisā€™ label, why would I want to go back?!?ā€ ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/16 "2015-11-04T20:58:23Z")
> [@don\_t\_ask](#): > > I think he has been misquoted. Surely he said ā€œrequired.ā€ No, thatā€™s his jacket that isnā€™t required. šŸ˜„ ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/17 "2015-11-05T00:32:52Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Any Genesis reunion with Gabriel would have to include Steve Hackett, that goes without saying. Now if only Steve could find time in his busy scheduleā€¦ > > But FWIW, a Gabriel-era reunion is very unlikely to ever happen. The last time an interviewer asked him about it, Peter said: ā€œIt took me 35 years to shake the ā€˜ex-Genesisā€™ label, why would I want to go back?!?ā€ Last time I looked he was luke-warm but then yes said, ā€œIā€™m just not into looking backā€ And then promptly did a cover album and asked a bunch of musicians to cover his music. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/18 "2015-11-05T04:19:16Z")
Alternate versions of songs? Finally, that gritty, acoustic version of ā€œSussudioā€ that Iā€™ve been dreaming about all this time. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/19 "2015-11-05T04:46:21Z")
I like Phil Collins. Iā€™d love to go to one of his concerts, and check out his new album. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591/20 "2015-11-05T05:26:31Z")
Good to hear! I did not expect that! > [@GESancMan](#): > > Um, Philā€¦ weā€™ve thought it through perfectly. What baffles me is that you think those of us wishing for a Gabriel reunion would _want_ to see him sing ā€œI Canā€™t Dance.ā€ The whole idea is that we would only want to see the Gabriel-era stuff performed! NERRDā€¦ OK, I kid. The funny thing is that Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel have rather similar voices, so thereā€™s a question how much having Peter along adds. Phil could play drums, I guess. > [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > Iā€™m really excited to hear this, but then I guess Iā€™m fogey adjacent. I like old Genesis, Phil Collins era Genesis and solo Phil so Iā€™d jump at the chance to see any of them (hate hate hate Mike and the Mechanics though). As I recall, Mike + the Mechanics had two lead singers who would sing different songs. Neither of whom sounded terribly like Peter Gabriel. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired/736591.md?page=2)