# Philip Seymour Hoffman has died.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 2, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364 "2014-02-02T18:34:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/81 "2014-02-03T02:01:03Z")

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I saw him in an old Law and Order(original) played a bad privileged dude.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/82 "2014-02-03T02:08:07Z")

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Son Cooper Alexander Hoffman, age 11

Daughter Tallulah Hoffman, age 7

Daughter Willa Hoffman, age 5

Fuck. They will never be able to fully enjoy his acting legacy, because it will forever be tainted with the stink of overdose. Rarely will one be mentioned without the other.

> [@Mr.Goob](#):
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> My best friend Gordy…

[Gordy Hoffman](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0388896/reference) has an IMDB page. He wrote PSH’s movie [Love Liza](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0282698/reference). I liked that movie a lot.

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**Author:** ![SerafinaPekala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SerafinaPekala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SerafinaPekala)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/83 "2014-02-03T02:16:31Z")

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What a massive waste of fine talent. Capote, Doubt and The Master were among my favorite movies, but really, as Drew says, anything he is in is worth seeing. Was. RIP PSH

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/84 "2014-02-03T02:25:02Z")

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He had 7 days left to shoot in Mockingjay Part 2(I guess they are filming both Hunger Games sequels together this time).

I assume they are close enough to finished to fill in his final parts with…creative editing, effects, etc.

Not to derail this.

He was a great talent. My first time seeing him was in Magnolia, at least my first time I remember.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/85 "2014-02-03T03:17:21Z")

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One of the best screen actors ever. If you have any doubt, see “Doubt” where Meryl Streep, in a tour d’force herself, keeps up with him, but he manages to give better depth in every scene they are in together. A loss for his family, and for film nuts.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/86 "2014-02-03T03:43:59Z")

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We should really fix the spelling in the title of this thread.

His first name was Philip.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/87 "2014-02-03T04:13:20Z")

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☹

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/88 "2014-02-03T04:15:34Z")

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There’s a very potent shipment of heroin cut 50/50 with [fentanyl](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl) being peddled up and down the east coast, and a lot of people are shooting what they think is their normal fix, and ODing because of it.

> **[Killer white heroin responsible for as many as 100 deaths in the US](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549944/Killer-heroin-fentanyl-epidemic-responsible-100-deaths-country-rising-half-month.html#ixzz2sCq578cf)**
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> The lethal combination of heroin and fentanyl, an opiate used to soothe the pain of cancer patients, is blamed for about 100 deaths since September. It is labelled as ‘bud ice,’ ‘income tax’ and ‘theraflu,’ authorities say.

> **[The Brutal Business Of Heroin Brings Wave Of Overdoses In Pa.](https://www.npr.org/2014/02/02/270640525/the-brutal-business-of-heroin-brings-wave-of-overdoses-in-pa)**
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> According to state and local authorities, 22 people in Western Pennsylvania have died of heroin overdose in less than two weeks. The wave of deaths is due to the appearance of an especially potent batch of heroin, mixed with the painkiller Fentanyl....

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/89 "2014-02-03T04:53:06Z")

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That’s a pretty weird thing to cut heroin with, since fentanyl is worth a lot more.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/90 "2014-02-03T05:06:59Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Another talented addict dead. It never stops. Heroin got Cory Monteith too. I guess it’s the current designer drug for todays hip celebrities.

I place a lot of the blame on the stupid so-called “War on Drugs”. But I don’t know if it’s appropriate to discuss this here in this thread. It’s basically because the cost and penalties of doing other drugs is so much higher than heroin that people have turned to Heroin when they can’t get other kinds of relief from pain. I would hope that most everyone understands why I would say that and who is to blame and that I should just leave it at that.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/91 "2014-02-03T05:12:27Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> That’s a pretty weird thing to cut heroin with, since fentanyl is worth a lot more.

And it doesn’t make sense from a dealer point of view. They’re literally killing off their business.

I don’t understand addiction to these drugs but I understand how dangerous addictions are and it’s no secret people regularly die of heroin with the needle still in them.

I only saw the previews of Capote and he was impressive.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/92 "2014-02-03T05:13:42Z")

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Just wanted to mention [Boogie Nights](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTMYcSU_HCc). Another of many great performances. He was always able to make a very strong impression.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/93 "2014-02-03T05:17:12Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> That’s a pretty weird thing to cut heroin with, since fentanyl is worth a lot more.

Selling a more powerful high wins the dealers more customers, plus they can charge more. Supposedly the deaths are actually driving business as junkies come looking for the killer fix.

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**Author:** ![Aman27deep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Aman27deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aman27deep)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/94 "2014-02-03T06:52:08Z")

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No sympathy for drug addicts. But I liked him so RIP.

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**Author:** ![gladtobeblazed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@gladtobeblazed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gladtobeblazed)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/95 "2014-02-03T08:44:11Z")

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I have to admit, my reasons for feeling sad that he died are entirely selfish. I wanted to see more out of him. I wanted to see him on the big screen again and again. I was just thinking about him the other day, and wondering what kind of wonderful roles he would have in the future. And now I’ll never see them. Goddamn it.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/96 "2014-02-03T09:33:22Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> That’s a pretty weird thing to cut heroin with, since fentanyl is worth a lot more.

I don’t think they “cut” the heroin with fentanyl so much as mixed it with it for a more potent high.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/97 "2014-02-03T09:54:55Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> (snip) so sad for them. he and his so have been together since '99.

Per the. [Daily Mail](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2550694/The-troubled-months-tragic-Philip-Seymour-Hoffman-Oscar-winner-split-long-time-partner-refused-interviews-looked-ill-pale-Sundance.html) he had split from her last Autumn. Whole I usually believe the daily mail rather less than Pravda, on celeb news they are usually spot on.

Might explain why he fell off the wagon. A fine talented actor. RIP.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/98 "2014-02-03T10:19:47Z")

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> [@Honey](#):
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> **Owning Mahowny** is one of my favorite movies. I loved him in it. Did anyone else like this movie? I haven’t seen it mentioned here. This makes me so sad. ☹

Saw it, loved it.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/99 "2014-02-03T10:20:53Z")

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> [@gladtobeblazed](#):
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> I have to admit, my reasons for feeling sad that he died are entirely selfish. I wanted to see more out of him. I wanted to see him on the big screen again and again. I was just thinking about him the other day, and wondering what kind of wonderful roles he would have in the future. And now I’ll never see them. Goddamn it.

Well put.

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**Author:** ![SerafinaPekala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SerafinaPekala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SerafinaPekala)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philip-seymour-hoffman-has-died/680364/100 "2014-02-03T14:07:47Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> That’s a pretty weird thing to cut heroin with, since fentanyl is worth a lot more.

Unless its some unbranded counterfeit “fentanyl” being used or someone has hijacked a supply of it somehow. \<\< just my WAG.

“Even more scary, one expert told CBS News, is that dope slingers appear willing to let the drug kill some addicts because it will attract more business from junkies chasing a more potent high.  
‘They’re willing to lose four or five people to a drug overdose death to maybe attract 30 or 40 new customers and that’s just the cost of doing business,’ said Dr. Neil Capretto of Gateway Rehab.”  
Read more: [Killer heroin fentanyl epidemic responsible for at least 100 deaths across the country and rising... more than half of them this month | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549944/Killer-heroin-fentanyl-epidemic-responsible-100-deaths-country-rising-half-month.html#ixzz2sGfWooxf)  
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