# Philly Cheesesteaks. What and where?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [April 17, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411 "2024-04-17T16:24:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/101 "2024-05-01T01:36:23Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> You said it! We were there about 1pm on Sunday, and wowweeee was it crowded! 18 of us trying to find food and a place to sit was a challenge.
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> We had a few scouts who weren’t interested in the available wares, but we had scouts trying cheesesteaks, sushi, something called a cheese boat, noodles, and other stuff. I wound up spending so much time wrangling and helping that I couldn’t spend a half hour plus waiting for Spataros to get me a sandwich without busting our schedule entirely.
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> Yes, I went to Philly and didn’t get a cheesesteak. Who woulda thunk it?

It’s not like you weren’t [warned](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/62) up above

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/102 "2024-05-01T10:14:38Z")

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Was it fun and worth the stop?

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**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/103 "2024-05-01T18:03:08Z")

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Nobody could gave predicted Reading Terminal Market would be crowded at 1pm on a lovely Sunday in April. Nobody!

Kidding aside, @Spiderman and other locals did accurately explain what to expect so thanks for that. It’s good to get more voices in.

> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> Was it fun and worth the stop?

I’m curious about this, too. And what did you do about vehicles?

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/104 "2024-05-01T18:13:42Z")

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> [@jnglmassiv](#):
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> > [@Stratocaster](#):
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> > Was it fun and worth the stop?
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> I’m curious about this, too. And what did you do about vehicles?

It was sort of controlled chaos, like most of the weekend. In hindsight, I’m not sure I would make the same choice again, as some of the scouts weren’t that into the experience. That or do more homework for them to get them excited about going to this place or that place for a meal.

The alternative would have been to find food somewhere else. We’re a diverse group, so I have a feeling going to a cheesesteak only place wouldn’t be better, ultimately it would be trying to find something for everyone on the street, again a bit challenging.

The day before we went to the [Capitol Cafe](https://www.visitthecapitol.gov/visit/capitol-cafe) and there was enough disappointment with the food choices to make me think that no place would satisfy everyone.

Vehicles, we just parked at a lot between Independence Hall and Reading.

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/105 "2024-05-01T19:31:56Z")

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I feel you. I was an assistant leader for a few years when my son was in Scouts. Was definitely herding cats, and since they couldn’t agree on anything, the leaders decided the cuisine whenever possible.

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/106 "2024-05-04T01:22:24Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Yeah, here in Chicago, we’ve had a place since the late 80s called Philly’s Best that uses Amoroso rolls and Liberty Bell steak

Interesting. I wonder if it’s the same [Philly’s Best](https://eatphillysbest.com/) that has locations throughout southern California. Real Amoroso rolls, and even a supply of Tastykakes and Frank’s soda on hand. They make a fantastic cheesesteak.

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/107 "2024-05-04T03:25:49Z")

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The logos and branding looks different. [Here’s ours](https://phillysbest.com/).

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/108 "2024-05-24T21:50:37Z")

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This looks like a pretty definitive list but not ranked.

> **[The best cheesesteaks to eat in Philly right now](https://www.inquirer.com/philly-tips/best-cheesesteaks-philadelphia.html?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=mktg_AD_Evergreen_Food_BestCheesesteaks&fbclid=IwAR3pZREGiwbEBqDqzj4nNHXvAW8DarODhi23FU90Gb26fJTVMZ76BYdC1FI_aem_AUmXCb2O0gcqbe-b6Oddpv_c1SWcuH2EDnrX7xWLWrlPBcNAVu2SeL-HWGlEz6H_MB3LdxqmFTo_Z0b2L7Ef1EFU&utm_id=120208618340150651&utm_content=120208618340200651&utm_term=120208618340170651&mibextid=CTbP7E)**
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> Fifteen quality versions of the city’s most iconic sandwich.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/109 "2024-06-19T00:23:11Z")

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Last two weeks I’ve had to spend a lot of time in PA. For lunch one day I went to Steve’s Prince of Steaks. I don’t know if it counts because it wasn’t the original Philly location (they have 4 locations). I had my usual, provolone and fried onions. It was pretty damn good. Bonus points for really good fries.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/110 "2024-06-23T17:44:27Z")

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I keep hearing Angelo’s as the go-to place. What’s the SD on them?

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/111 "2024-07-09T23:08:41Z")

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I had my cheesesteak at Angelos. Took 35 minutes and a long line. Provolone and onion - no peppers. The bread was phenomenal and the meat great quality but overall, just OK. A bit boring to be honest.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/112 "2024-07-10T06:02:11Z")

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> [@themapleleaf](#):
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> The first Philly Cheesesteak I ever remember having was at Ned’s Cafe at Victoria College UT.

You tried a cheesesteak in Utah of all places?

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/113 "2024-07-10T06:16:58Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I’ve never understood how a Philly Cheesesteak sandwich isn’t made with Philadelphia “Philly” cream cheese. I mean, it’s right in the name!

Here in Olympia, WA, 3,000 miles away from Philly, I’ve seen a steak hoagie with cream cheese referred to as an “Oly cheesesteak”.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/114 "2024-07-10T06:47:13Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> > [@themapleleaf](#):
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> > The first Philly Cheesesteak I ever remember having was at Ned’s Cafe at Victoria College UT.
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> You tried a cheesesteak in Utah of all places?

Actually, UT means the University of Toronto.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/115 "2024-07-10T06:51:19Z")

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Especially with Victoria College, which is one of the federated colleges of the University of Toronto.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/116 "2024-07-10T07:40:29Z")

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> [@themapleleaf](#):
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> Actually, UT means the University of Toronto.

Also Utah. Which is why it’s nice when people write out what they are trying to impart. It helps loopy Americans and others. It can’t hurt that much.

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/117 "2024-07-10T07:52:31Z")

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Next thing you know, somebody will be telling me that UA means “University of Alabama,” when it actually means “University of Alberta.” Says this proud alumnus of U of A[lberta].

Agree that when it comes to universities, it’s best to spell them out. My American ex-wife got a lot of mileage out of claiming she went to “USC” and “UNC.” She didn’t say that she went to the University of Southern Colorado (in Pueblo) and the University of Northern Colorado (in Greeley).

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> a steak hoagie with cream cheese referred to as an “Oly cheesesteak”.

I’d call it An Abomination. Does it taste good? Are there grilled onions?

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abomination?!? I give you the [Philly Cheesesteak Cheesecake](https://www.niksnacksonline.com/2016/10/philly-cheesesteak-cheesecake.html)

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/philly-cheesesteaks-what-and-where/1000411/120 "2024-07-10T11:52:00Z")

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Wow. I’d try it (I’d try anything pretty much) but the idea of savory cheesecake is so weird.

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